Mostard.org is down. Cant use it. Garnet has not had any development according to its repo in 2 years. Also not looking to use a chat app. What are these plenty v4v xmr services for people to use? I will check them out if you provide them. Also I dont recall calling monero users drug addicts, or criminals. Just stingy, self entitled, pompus, and arrogant. These are my first hand experiences with mulitiple monero users. I invite you to change my mind. If you can...

Yes, Garnet is very out of date, wouldnt recommend using it. The Amethyst guys have been talking about adding Monero or making a fork for it. You can't or dont want to use Mostard? Not sure what was going on earlier, but it works for me right now, and I've never seen the website down before. Nostr isn't bitcoin lightning-only. It's an agnostic protocol. v4v service: https://xmrchat.com/ Idk if you listen to Ungorvernable Misfits, but they've been using xmrchat for months. Many other podcasts/youtubers use it as well. Some you might know and some you might not. Do p2p markets count as v4v?:

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When i try to visit mostard via tor it wont connect at all. As far as Amethyst goes the lead developer is beyond untrustworthy and so is the software he develops. It endagers its users on many levels that I dont want to go into for the dozenth time. I will also check out those websites you mentioned. I will set up a monero wallet later and let you know when I do. I am willing to test out and try it.

@rafael_xmr is the tor connection down atm? Does Mostard have an onion site? Can you explain the Amethyst thing to me? First time I hear this Ok, let me know!

Examine the location features within the application. Does this paint a target on your back and can you roughly calculate how much your targets are worth robbing by their zap history? Examine the callbacks to github. Could this be used to fingerprint you? The developer has admitted that they would whore themselves out and do anything for a price. Is this the type of man to be trusted with your privacy and security to do the right thing? Why does he also condone the spread of illegal content on his app? Are some people shaddow banned too? Also extensive private conversations with him revealed he is of highly questionable moral character, pompus, and an utter asshole. While I admit that amethyst is one of the best nostr clients available. It is also untrustworthy for all the reasons mentioned above. If it was forked and stripped of the privacy invading features. Then maintained by a trustworthy team of developers who believe in ACTUAL privacy and security. I would be all over it like white on rice on a paper plate in a snow storm. However as of right now. I would not touch it with a 10 foot pole.