What you say is achieved using UBI is actually achieved with productivity growth, money that can't be manipulated (Bitcoin) and deflation without involving governments. In my eyes there is no battle in regards to who controls the money printers as the same people have always controlled the printers. Democrats, republicans, greens are just a distraction as they are players in the same script - an illusion for an alternative. You can't "cut from Government" unless you reject the fake money that your government can print out of thin air, infinitely. To get the people on our side, we have to show them a World of abundance where 1 person invents a better, cheaper, faster way of doing something and this productivity boost flows to everyone. Any other alternative means that you constantly inflate fake, imaginary money and steal the productivity growth, keeping the people in slavery mode.

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Sure, absolutely agree. Why not both worlds though? Even Saylor is thinking about this I think. He said in another podcast, "there will be two types of people, the ones that own Bitcoin and the ones that will get some Bitcoin from cleverly constructed redistribution nation-state systems." Now, he didn't say UBI, but I wouldn't be surprised if he actually thinks its the way to go. Saylor is pretty libertarian and sharp as an arrow as you know, and he has proved to be the master at getting out of the box. Because I absolutely agree with you, that's my kind of world, a voluntaryist world where all relationships are voluntary. The question really is, do you think people are culturally heading in that direction? I think people are so dependent on government (but like really dependent... it's incredible) that we simply can't move to that free market world without a transitional model, which I think the UBI fits perfectly.