This isn’t fake news by the way! My internal sources telling me that shit hits the fan in russia 🔥
ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
Login to reply
Replies (77)
Wtf?
Curious about the outcome 😂🔥
Is Shiba your internal source?
Shit man, happy to have a farm in Guatemala, Europe always gave me this feeling of real big disasters happening over and over again.
Glad to be here, family and learning has been great, but goal is to finish building that farm in Guate in 5 years as an extreme fun place, not really see my self just with the cows. 😂
It’s always so hot in Europe man.
Yes pls let US corruption or EU moral hypocrisy prevail right?
I just want the war to be stopped so maybe that’s the call and russians will realize and stop eating propoganda
Whaha, yes.... Europe isn't pushing propaganda and lies....
They do! But that’s not what I’m talking about rn!
If you haven't figured out America is pushing this war and not Russia(ok maybe both sides) by now, God help you.
So what are you talking about?seems like you are saying the Russians are the only ones eating propaganda.
This happened multiple times before, in a milder version though. Every single time it turned out to be a fake internal fight followed by some considerable action at the front.
Just think about it twice. If it was really serious, the guy would be really dead already.
I suggest you to google and find the video what terrorist prigozhin disclosed today
I suggest you realize what the CIA has been doing for decades.
Propaganda or not I pray for ending the war. Innocent people dying for nothing. Nothing good will come of this. Peace to all. ✌️
it’s true! pro-governmental media are now prohibited from reporting any prigozhin states, so most ppl here do not know what is going on 🤕
those who read telegram channels (it’s the most accessible platform rn) are in shock
госпереворот или договорняк - никто не знает
Договорняк 😕 Уже были подобные кейсы несколько раз - закончилось ничем либо движухой на фронте.
You can be right, but this just feels like a pretty sad and desperate psy ops attempt after a failed Ukrainian offensive.
надеюсь, но вроде уже и фсбшники уголовное завели, и собр едут в белгород. короче испортили всем вечер пятницы
🤷♂️
ну тогда 🍿🤙🤡
btw followed 🫵💜🫂
Даже если это «госпереворот», тогда это какая-то его очень тупая версия, как из третьесортного боевика из 90х 😂
He'd be punched right out of a window.... Nvm that zero hedge is half propaganda and pro Russian
Take it with a grain of salt and assume that there's a high probability that Russia is trying to do the same thing to someone else.
I don’t know or care what you’re spouting. I just want them to leave my wife’s country alone so that people can stop dying and start living. Thanks.
🎯
You act as if I dont care about people dying.....way to paint me in a corner for just pointing out the lies about this war. If you would truly care, you would care about how it started. This war doesnt end or start with Putin. America wants this war, or better yet the corrupt deepstate of America wants this war. We all want to prevent people from dying but Putin isnt the only enemy.|
да обычно самый проклятый из вариантов и сбывается так-то. хотя я тоже мало верю.
понятное дело, что у пригожина есть (или была?) крыша в элите, непонятно только кто.
я вот наслушалась теорий, что путин это наш гинденбург, и прям хуевит от мыслей, что все, что пригожин после бахмута делает: по городам вот проехался прям как кандитат (ха-ха), что это все неспроста
ну, а может власть просто хочет заморозить конфликт (или даже вообще соглашения с украинцами подписывать) и им надо избавиться от пригожина и его бойцов - они вполне могут, такие же людоеды
Do you know what would stop this war? Hanging the Wallstreet backed traitors that started this.
Yes! It’s already interesting!
Вполне возможно.
Здесь есть интересная аналогия с первыми годами совка и гражданской войной. Пока Троцкий воевал на фронте и хвастался успехами против Белых, кабинетные крысы типа Сталина, Зиновьева и Каменева шаг за шагом укрепляли свою власть (особенно Коба). Я это к тому, что реальная власть не на полях сражений, она в центре, в тихих кабинетах.
we got your point of view. instead of trying to de-escalate the conflict, western governments are pushing it more.
to some extent i even agree with it.
however Putin himself started the war. by saying that not him but western politicians should stop what they are doing you transfer the focus from a person who is responsible for that.
How did he start it?
В течении нескольких дней узнаем.
Agenda free YouTube channel doing research in real time 😎 when he find something interesting he's shouts "breaking news, breaking news!"
https://www.youtube.com/live/zdKrc1ign5M
by violation of the territorial integrity of another country. i do remember waking up in the morning of 24th of Feb and learning that Ukrainian cities were bombed, and Russian troops entered Ukrainian territory.
do you remember it starting differently?
If you actually think it started there, you need to educate yourself.
If I would truly care? Please. My wife and I personally found safe passage for several dozen Ukrainians to escape the war, find shelter, and apply for visas in other countries. I’m sad that we even had to do that. I’m not just typing on a keyboard here.
I’m sure you care about people not dying, not disputing that. All I know is whoever is pushing wars needs to stop so that people stop dying. I truly care to not jump through mental gymnastics and play 5D chess to figure out where to “truly” point fingers at. Russian troops invaded Ukraine and killed and keep killing innocent civilians, full stop.
Anyway, we’re way past the deep end. I can’t entertain this conversation anymore.
You are an idiot that cant see past the second move.
GL saving Ukrainians, Id hope you would make as much of an effort to save Russians or right wingers.
Enjoy your conspiracy theories. Muted. Bye.
Fucking idiots like you bring the world down
The type of person, good hearted as it may be, gives to charity but votes for the party that robs them
ngl, your statement seems pretty arrogant. you do not provide your point of view yet disrespect mine.
i might only assume you consider it starting in 2014. i can’t agree with that because the Donbas conflict de-escalated by 2018
i also should mention i’m Russian and i live about 170km away Ukrainian border.
then studying at university I also was a volunteer, I organised some lectures for Donbas students who came to our town. I did talk with them a lot, we even became friends
i think this part of my life should bring more value for my views i stated above
So I guess you know nothing about the CIAs intentions and history, got it.
I think you underestimate the evil that lives inside the west and glorify it from the outside,
Terry, it’s pointless to explain this simple things to the guy who doesn’t get it 🤷♂️
Condoleezza rice clearly stated they wanted war pre 2014. The CIA had been training Ukrainian soldiers for a reason. America is left with nothing if Europe decided to to the Asian route. They needed this to prevent a total collapse.
I mind brush past the simple things in a discussions but I dont deem those relevant, higher order truth is often more complicated
Look, we all have our part to play. I applaud you for saving innocent people. Russia takes in as much refugees, you realize that right?
i don’t understand how can you make those assumptions about me. i didn’t gave any moral justification for western politics in any of my posts above.
let me make it clear: Putin moved Russian troops to Ukraine, Putin started mobilisation. Because of Putin’s actions both Russian and Ukrainian people die at this war.
CIA is not the one who creates those presidential decrees.
rofl....right....Russia violated those international treaties....not Nato
They should have left Ukraine alone but they didnt, they didnt want to.... they needed this.
The West needed war to somewhat extend the death of the dollar. After decades of war and all the lies which they were build upon, you really think this time is different?
I think you have a very naive view of what western foreign polciy and the defense industry is capable of
so now we apparently speak about eastward NATO expansion and not relocating troops to another sovereign country, i see
if only we have a document that proves those guarantees existed in the first place 🤔 oh wait, there’s none. also, it was in 90s before the collapse of USSR, we even had few coup d’etat after
that sounds like such a US talking point. Excuse me fore doubting your legitimacy. You need to stop acting like the war started with Russia stepping on Ukrainian soil and start acknowledging the tension that preceded it.
Next thing you are going to tell me is that Putin is going to invade Europe
and you still ignore my question which of my statements implied that!
also, i find that pretty western-centric to think there are only american agencies ambitions and not russian/chinese and etc
im not denying those but all the wars in several decades have proven the US/UK being the lying/robbing/instigating party
Listen, let me be clear, these are international bankers backing certain regimes in order to profit from it. They were on Americas 'side' for decades but they might as well be on Russia side at the same time.
i live in Russia my entire life. for the last twenty years there was not any tension on Russia/West relationships whatsoever.
we’ve seen Merkel and Obama on the TV all the time visiting Putin and telling how everyone would cooperate and bla bla bla.
and no, he would not invade Europe, what a nonsense
what a politician says and does is not the same. US Russian relations began souring badly during Obama
I guess im not going to convince you if you think Obama is a good guy
Glad we can agree on something :P
i see and can agree with some of your statements.
but my point is doesn’t matter much who (might) fuelled the conflict, it matters who pulled the trigger.
and i find him guilty of that. a wise politician would try his best to save any of it from happening – yet he didn’t.
during the Ru/Uk invasion we’ve seen some disturbance in Kosovo, Russian agencies probably wanted to shift the focus to that, but local politics were able to negotiate it.
and i blame Putin for not doing the same thing. agencies are not saint, but Putin is the main villain in this situation.
he started killing Russians before, and western countries closed their eyes for that, even helped him. i understand. now he kills Ukrainians as well. i’m glad western politicians noticed that.
they don’t lie about how bad he is, they just don’t mention their own problems.
i do not think so. it would be stupid to think that any politician from another country cares about people in the other part of the globe.
tbh, i don’t believe politicians ever care about people
You see, I don't see Russia stepping foot in Ukraine the start and pulling the trigger. It started long before that.
And, don't think the aggression is Kosovo is Russian made., it's NATO made. Serbia isn't playing ball with Europe, that's that they are starting fires. They do now as they did in the 90's. The Western empire had no desires with Yugoslavia becoming somewhat of a strong economy after the cold war. The CIA and Clinton were directly involved in funding rebels. They caused revolutions and the further breakup.
I had sources about US statements about Yugoslavia but am not able find them. But, this is a documentary about the war in BiH. I think its made pretty balanced, with a lot of victims and players interviewed.
I hope it shows you how involved the West was and opens your eyes about the possibilities of them fueling aggression and rebels in Ukraine. To me, they use the same playbook everywhere in the world.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1187&v=RUuhSGnLvv8&feature=emb_logo
And I say pretty balanced because ofcourse, there is a lot more going on during the final invasion and the psychological or political dynamics alone would make it more nuanced than being portrait in the docu. Im willing to leave that somewhere in the middle
yeah, i understand your views on Russian/Ukrainian conflict but still can’t agree with that.
after all, now we can only speculate on who to blame since we are back to value judgments.
anyway, it was nice to talk to your and hear another point of view!
If only power hungry politicians would stay out of our lives right? 😅
No, I guess stepping across someone's borders is a hard no for you and I get that.
Tbh, Id prefer a multipolar world over a unipolar one. In the West I'm as afraid of turning into an authoritarian society as I bet people in Russia are.
Id hope since we are here on Nostr, we share the same distrust in centralized authority.
Are you sure that Putin is still alive?
Почему видео с попыткой осадить Пригожина исходит не от Путина, а от Суровикина? Что если все они подчинялись только лично Путину, а он уже не может записать никакое обращение?
ну во-первых, Путину и правда не свойственно в первые же моменты брать и высказываться по делу.
во-вторых, я тоже уже дошла до того, что готова поверить конспирологии, что деду плохо, и вот так элиты пытаются совершить передел сфер влияния
@npub10rj8...zv9r, @nen is a Russian in the area. She's a skeptic just like you are a skeptic. Her skepticism leads her to disbelieve her country. Yours leads you to disbelieve your country. You are more similar than you think.
Yes, the West provided many "reasons" for some kind of Russian defensive response: like NATO expansion, launch tubes in Poland, refusal to give assurances about Ukraine not joining NATO, pulling out of ABM treaty, INF treaty, not taking Minsk accords seriously, comments about how their goal for a long time has been to destroy Russia etc, etc. Russia has been invaded several times before and always through Ukraine. So there was a real threat and Putin didn't have any good outs -- he asked to join NATO (not believing it was really possible, but to make the point) and was refused. Pease with Russia was never something the West would allow, it was not an option. Russia was forced to be an enemy, only an enemy.
But! Russia wasn't forced into invading and crushing Ukraine on many false (or at least very dubious) pretenses. I think Putin must have had other options. And many Russians have family in Ukraine and vice versa, so this isn't just some strategic move, it's devastating and horrible and very hard to think about as a simple chess game.
Думаю он либо не может уже ничего записать (маловероятно), либо хочет посмотреть кто «победит», чтобы потом поддержать более сильного. Но это тоже собственно конспирология, подразумевающая какое-то запредельное продуманство путина.