theres a fine line between relays having a personality/filtering/curating content and poorly attempting to make events exclusive to them.
the idea of restricted access to events on nostr is a joke, thats just not compatible with the protocol. those NIPs are useless.
there are and there should be a variety of relays, because of the need for incentives but also because some stuff just cannot be done client-side.
now something i wish people looked more into is user or local communities owned relays - which are closer to the user - that's an opportunity to get done whatever is too heavy to do on clients there, making sure users have full control over it.
even the outbox model would scale better that way, having clients fetch events from a home relay.
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but how is anyone without a phd supposed to understand all this? you don't want to be giving just two options: (1) accept the centralising defaults or (2) make a random choice as a result of being forced to make a choice but having no idea what that choice is about.
You need a third option, which is forced but very easy to understand choices (so informed choices), or a fourth option, which is non-centralising defaults.
Right now everything seems like (1) or (2).
non-centralizing defaults come with outbox to begin with. however the user discovered nostr already gives a point of entry into the ecosystem, that could be following someone or connecting to a relay.
and for obvious reasons, your third option is objectively the best, users need to have a basic idea of what goes on behind the UI so that they can make conscious choices.
i agree with you that it gets really confusing, and thus the reason why this space needs more UX designers which are good at dealing with decentralized tools.
this is a completely different scenario than what has been talked about for these NIPs.
here the data probably does not hold any value to the point where people would broadcast the events, and nip63 doesnt apply, only nip70. in that case it makes sense, but the user needs to know that they could be rug pulled anytime by that google drive and dropbox, if they were to not care about the tag anymore.
it would only be perfect in a scenario where the user owns both relays.
so if that user wants peace of mind, i wouldn't recommend going with nostr. it unfortunately isn't a solution in every scenario.
you know better than i do how nostr is, among a few other things, a solution to censorship, definitely not a solution to everything.
