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Imma be the first to say NOT ALL HUMANS

Populations are pretty easy to model. Individuals not so much.

A person is smart. People are stupid.

Would it be a matter of evolution to change this? Or is it what others argue, that it's a 'fiat mindset'?

It's a matter of culture. It's a matter of values and daily priorities chosen at the individual level. We have to raise children to value certain types of work and see the natural tendency towards shedding responsibility as a sin. Communities must value self-defense and natural recycling of waste, self-managed water collection and purification, universal participation in small scale farming/gardening, etc. Our current global capitalist culture values a lazy individual because lazy individuals buy lots of services and gadgets.

good stuff ACV

It sounds like you are saying the fiat mindset needs to change. I can see that changing that could leave room for a change of values that lead to a change in culture.

I do agree with 'fix the money, fix the world', but I think the tendency to desire government to take responsibility will not be fixed. What will be fixed is merely the government's ability to have power too far beyond what is required to execute the responsibility it takes on. To truly be rid of government is cultural and there's no environmental pressure that would disincentivize government, even if money is fixed. We've had governments for 6000-8000 years now, long before fiat banking 500 years ago. My hope is that once we fix the money the world will be free to organize local communities around any culture, religious or secular, corporate or cooperative, anarchist and self sufficient or communist. However, heirarchical states and their militiaries and corporations are just too good at managing resources and directing effort. I don't currently see a realistic alternative. It's really not feasible to do what I previously suggest, to take all the responsibilities back and do the work as an individual. You'd never 'gain' in the market, competing with the big corporate/national machines, so you'd run out of resources and then go bankrupt. You have to coordinate and organize as a union, cooperative or government around your cultural identity, and then you're back to the same old games.

Ah the citadels. Yeah, that could happen. The same old games you mention will happen but truth of corruption will be discovered faster than before if the money is fixed. Though, on second thought, do you think there may be more effective distractions in the future that prolong the truth from being discovered? That could leave an opening for a controlled money to be snuck in and we're back to square one. Are we doomed to repeat history?

I'd say that we're stuck with our past. We're not likely to throw off our governments. We're building infrastructure out into the wild so people can escape, but we'll never be rid of them. Like with biological systems, when the environment gets tough and resources thin, creatures get smaller. Governments will get smaller. Ideally we remove from them all responsibilities, that we can. Anything thats really just a protocol, desirable coordination systems, easily voluntary. Titling Real Estate and cars, smart property, Marriage, Money, Digital Rights, Decentralized Identity, Financial contracts/products, decentralized smart grid/power systems, decentralized spectrum management. Whatever we can make a protocol for, that doesn't require violence in some degree, like police, courts, security. Deal with the rest with existing governments to minimize bloodshed. If your money and real estate titles and other protocols and grids wouldn't be impacted, you're more likely to choose to revolt against an authority who is being oppressive, but that will merely put some other group in charge of physical security with a different ideology. The devil you know is typically preferrable to the devil you don't.