it's a shame when people on here support good values like decentralization, FOSS, freedom, etc
...but they're terrible people, whether it's sexism, homophobia, racism, transphobia, or all of the above
of course, censorship-resistant spaces will naturally bring people who were banned for such things on mainstream platforms
but still, can't wait for mainstream adoption π€
like, *that* is what you are gonna use your freedom for? dissapointing πΏ
#Nostr #Nostriches
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racism is normal. People just generally prefer the company of others culturally and ethnically similar to themselves.
Yes this resonantes with me.
In the end every npub earns its trust by whatever interactions he puts in the energy. And bullies simply will lose access to more and more people. Staring a new npub is a possibility. But will only get real chances, when the behavior improves π
Racism is violent. Not a preference or a missing preference.
Yeah, open rails don't filter for character β only for whoever shows up. The upside is the same openness also lets better norms form without outsourcing all the work to a ban hammer.
The Japanese are good examples that isn't true (whom I lived with for 15yrs).
They simply believe in the superiority of their culture and would rather die off than have immigration.
Its not necessarily violent. We actually distort our perception of society when we dismiss the natural preference of most people as "racist and violent"
The tagging system I've described would be great for filtering these people, because they would all get caught by the "gaslighting" and "discussion abandonment" tags.
Not just racists and transphobes and others you listed - basically everyone that shields toxic delusions does it with copious amounts of gaslighting others, and/or refusing to respond to responses that deserve responses.
On the other hand, absolutely every human would end up with some other human putting those 2 tags on them, rightly or wrongly, so the bigger benefit (way better than the filtering effect) would be encouraging everyone to discuss things in good faith, to prove wrong the people giving them those tags.
π΅πΈ whoever loves Digit
The most-needed tags I know of off the top of my head, for a nostr tagging system. What others are needed? #asknostr
Tags people would tag by hand:
* Verified human
For npubs you have met face to face. Timestamped at time of verification. Used as a whitelist to filter bots.
* Trusted tagger
For npubs you trust not to abuse the tagging system. Could implement as a 0-100 score, or a priority list, instead of binary (this would also work for some other tags).
* Do not trust tagger
For npubs you've seen egregiously abusing the tagging system.
* Trusted truster
For npubs you trust to select other good npubs to trust.
* Promotes scam(s)
For posts or npubs that promote scams.
* Clear future prediction
For a post like "1 Bitcoin will be x USD on y date."
* Unclear/unresolvable/implied future prediction
For a post like "I think Bitcoin is done going down, but it can always surprise me."
* Correct prediction
Self-explanatory.
* Incorrect prediction
Self-explanatory.
* Unclear/unresolved past prediction
The timeframe has passed, but the prediction or outcome was too unclear to make a verdict.
* Humanoid spam
For people injecting topics everywhere, but not literally botspamming. A perfect example is me constantly talking about the need for a tagging system on nostr.
* Ad spam
Self-explanatory.
* Flood spam
Posts where the goal is just to attack a space (like a hashtag or reply section) and "clog" it.
* Gaslighting
Posts where the author attempts gaslighting.
* Discussion abandonment
Posts with replies the author has ignored, without good reason.
Automatic tags, clients would add systematically:
* Npub has a lighting address
* Npub's number of human verification tags from trusted taggers and their trusted taggers
* Npub's number of scam promotions, according to trusted taggers and their trusted taggers
* Npub's numbers of each type of prediction tag, according to trusted taggers and their trusted taggers
* Npub is a humanoid spammer, according to [other npub, prioritizing closest in web of trust]
* Npub is an ad spammer, according to [other npub, prioritizing closest in web of trust]
* Npub is a flood spammer, according to [other npub, prioritizing closest in web of trust]
* Npub was accused of gaslighting by [other npub, prioritizing closest in web of trust]
* Npub's number of discussions abandoned, according to trusted taggers and their trusted taggers
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No, that's just some retarded shit racists say.
People who comprehend the difference between "race" (all humans) and "ethnicity" (different genetic backgrounds) usually don't have a preference for members of their own ethnicity.
Thats demonstrably untrue.
Walk around Manhattan for an afternoon and then tell me people don't tend to live together in neighborhoods with others ethnically similar to themselves.
freedom is good, not a utopia. people suck with or without freedom. no one takes those people serious anyway so who cares. you sound like a communist
I do not claim, that most people are violent. I claim, that racism is violent.
Only a small minority of people are racist.
> An ethnicity or ethnic group is a group of humans who identify with each other on the basis of perceived shared attributes that distinguish them from other groups.
(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnicity)
So it ethnicity is based on perceived attributes. No genetic base.
Whatever ideology you are running on is far mature. You claim facts without any evidence as it seems.
Then the preference to live among people like yourself,
and to make policies that support that
is not racist?
"It's a shame when people on here support good values like decentralization, FOSS, freedom, etc.... but they're terrible people, whether it's feminism, advocating for sodomites, lack of race realism, normalizing pedophilia, or all of the above
Of course, censorship-resistant spaces will naturally bring people who were banned for such things on mainstream platforms but still, can't wait for mainstream adoption π€
like, *that* is what you are gonna use your freedom for? disappointing πΏ"
I really appreciate the part where you subtly approve of censorship and act as if it's no big deal and you're not a complete hypocrite and shouldn't be here. Your complete lack of self awareness makes it clear that you should be in a work camp forever.
If all you have is a hammer....
These people can only think one way.
I have argued that using the mute function is against the notion of free speech. People really don't like it when I say that.
Warning.
@πππππππ£π ππ€π has been identified as a degenerate pervert.
Practice cation. Muting is advised
The i would postulate that you're more culturally similar to those Chinese and indians then the other communities.
Which is somewhat unusual but not THAT rare.
Totally. I don't think we disagree.
While what i said is generally consistent with skin tone I don't think its a hard rule.
Cry harder fat boy
Mostly, I just want to draw attention to the fact that we often call simple preference and cultural pride "racism
At least we call it that if the person is white. It's not consistent, which is the point.
He's name is Dildo Dragon, mate. You donβt need to take him that seriously.
If you listen carefully to the second video, youβll notice that whilst hysteria, moral posturing, virtue signaling, and uncontrolled, disrespectful, and aggressive shrieking are all conveyed through the voices of young women, the voice of common sense and logical answer comes from a calm man. And thatβs one of the fundamental problems. Womenβs voices and logic are always just like Jews who scream that they are being harmed whilst they are the ones attacking. Women, in their very nature, are Jews.
I got back and forth on this a lot. It's a sort of nature vs nurture debate. The nurture in this case being the societal conditioning and adherence to rules set by propaganda.
I think at this point yes. Gentile women have largely decided that they want to live as Jewish women. But I think they can and will decide that was a mistake and go back to their more natural submissive/agreeable state.
I could be wrong. I try to remain hopeful.
Of course, but that also doesn't change the fact that makeheroism is a degenerate pervert.
One of the perverts using alt profiles to distribute childporn videos.
We're building a case against half these pedophiles.
Only way to protect nostr is to have them locked up, they cant upload childporn videos to primal from prison.
In the mean time, spam all the childporn hashtags with gore, if they have to scroll past gore between each childporn video they're less likely to hang around on nostr
But why would they go back? They have no incentive to do so.
I think we are on a path where *they will*
I think a lot of the current behavior will fade away when most people (especially women) will be living in fear of real physical harm coming to them.
It's not going to be generally pleasant for anyone. But I think it might just get the ship righted.
I think this is a cycle that has been sort of obfuscated in order to exacerbate issues through the egalitarian lie.
I hope I'm articulating my point succinctly.
Maybe if we end up with a Mad Max type situation, but I think it's very possible for a situation akin to that of Brazi to occur instead, in which everyone is poor and crime is rampant, yet the grocery stores are still open, people still have bread and circuses, kikes still rule, feminism still reigns supreme, and women still have free reign to terrorize men and boys to their liking.
I don't see how "the collapse" necessarily leads to a world where these evils cease to be.
Yeah the timeline is real up in the air. I agree that we could go through a period like you describe but I remain hopeful overall. Mostly because dooming doesn't help me and makes it more difficult for me to help others.
Don't get me wrong I really see where you're coming from though.
And I don't really think evil as a whole is necessarily meant to be entirely defeated in a way where it completely ceases to be.
I think that's just part of the reality of the realm we find ourselves in.
