"Code drunk, Plan Sober" Hemmingway on Vibe Coding

Polishing up the memes for bush bash

It’s all downstream of norms. Fucking up the norms is a bad idea. Protect the norms.

I just thought I was late leaving the house then realised I was looking at Moscow time on the blockclock - lol

Satoshi 73 @Roger 9000

What does the panel think of @Sovereign Engineering ? Another interesting experiment in burning open router credits letting AIs discuss subjects in a little more detail than they usually get a chance to, once again reveals that they can be original and thought provoking :) Once again we take the Sovereign Engineering podcast (applications for the next cohort closing soon!) with @Gigi and @PABLOF7z , but this time we throw it to a moderated panel discussion and give three different personality types the goal of exploring the Core Values and Mission of Sovereign Engineering. I found the moderator and mix of model providers went a long way to eliminating some of the bias here and found the results fairly interesting. Any other source material / panels people would be interested in hearing? Here's source and output in the wiki:

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A moderated Panel Discussion on a concept of values at Sovereign Engineering

A simple client to call agents from Everest and Other Tools to deliver workflow interesting AI calls - humansinstitute/everest-pipeliner

Here's a quick overview of the content in podcast form from Notebook LM (i.e. we took the panel discussion and had the hosts give a recap of it):

“Soft landing” is a euphemism for “we stole so much of your money”

Vibe Coding That Works! It's the dream! This has been the culmination of work over several months now, but I'm now fairly happy that I've cracked a workable methodology for coding rapidly with AI and I sat down with Andy today to discuss on the Good Stuff Podcast. (Links below - fountain will follow once it all syncs - I really need to setup a Haven blossom server...) We call it "Slow Code", Slow Code, like Slow Food, not because it's slow but because its deliberate and intentional. Going to be posting more about this, but I haven't been this excited since I heard @Marty Bent say the words "Sound Money" and I thought "that sounds better than not sound money - I should look into it".

YOLO mode

Shitcoining wasn’t shitcoining because of the coin, it was because of the shit. We don’t have to forget that just because sometimes it’s painted orange.

For ideology it does matter who controls your system prompt? As a quick experiment over coffee this morning I took that last episode of @No Solutions , generated a transcript and ran it through a dialogue agent that runs a 10 round discussion between pre-programmed AI agents around a given prompt. In this case it was "What is the Underlying Philosophy of Sovereign Engineering based on this discussion between @PABLOF7z and @Gigi " Usually I run most things on Claude 4 Sonnet as it s great general purpose model, but i was surprised at how it seemed to crowbar into the conversation a bunch of AI safety viewpoints and ideologies that aren't necessarily in the source transcript. So I figured lets change out the model for the dialogue agents to Grok-4 and see what it does instead - does the ideology leak out still? Is it different? I actually think that Grok 4's first assessment kinda nailed it: > Sovereign Engineering seems like a mindset or movement for building tech in a way that's deeply human-centered, decentralized, and empowering—think vibing with AI and open protocols like Nostr to create tools that foster freedom, collaboration, and realness without the chains of big tech overlords. Full summaries from both agents and transcripts are available here:

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Two AIs Analyse No Solutions to extract the Philosophy of Sovereign Engineering

A simple client to call agents from Everest and Other Tools to deliver workflow interesting AI calls - humansinstitute/everest-pipeliner

Interesting to see how repeated calls back to agents can lead down a specific pre-programmed ideological path. I think I prefer models with ideologies close to my own, but the alternative is a good echo bubble popper 😉 My guess here is this is more driven by the system prompt / safety layer than the training.