Because a lot of it is visual and measurable, and occurred within the past decade, Egypt is currently providing a useful case study in the perils of central planning. The country over the past ten years (when current leadership took over) took on $120 billion in external debt, and also used a lot of local deficit spending, with the reasonable goal of building lots of new infrastructure, alleviating congestion with new cities, and boosting international tourism to what are some of the best beaches in the world. But details and order matter. And an entity with a monopoly on violence has less incentive to get the details and path dependence correct, and has fewer error correction methods built in than private developers do. So the government built a big network of roads and bridges, which helped somewhat, although many of the roads are badly designed and always delayed. They built an entire new capital city for the government and military HQ, along with business and residential districts, which nine years in is still mostly vacant. They are developing the north coast city of El Alamein, but unlike well-designed private developments (eg in El Gouna on the Red Sea), the government was heavily involved for El Alamein, did massive overbuilding with incongruent designs that will take decades to fill (by which time the buildings will be deteriorating). Now they have chronic power outages due to insufficient power generation. They are building their first nuclear facility, but it only began in 2022 and won’t be finished until 2026 or later (probably later). Maybe they should have started that facility earlier, before their now-empty city… The average Egyptian pays for a lot of this through currency debasement. They look around and say “yes there are new bridges and entire new cities, but it takes me more hours of work to afford a car than it did ten years ago and there are three-hour power outages each day…” Basically they get taxed in opaque ways via debasement, and don’t benefit from most of the development that they are paying for. And while those developments might make sense if successful, the order of development, the details of development, and so forth have clearly been suboptimal. Anyway, good morning.

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AzHodl 1 year ago
Caesars always Caesar. GM
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Rand 1 year ago
GM precious! & i mean that, t-y!
I see the same thing in South Africa, including the contrast between public and private. Your note also gives the most generous interpretation that it was all just well intentioned but incompetent. Like South Africa I'm sure a lot of the infrastructure work was done in a way to enrich a few cronies via state contracts.
The productive people in every economy are beholden to these infestations of parasites. Taxed out the arse on everything they earn, then constant debasement of what’s left and they’re told it’s for their own good because who else could pay someone to build roads?
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LL62 1 year ago
Europes future... GM Lyn 🤠🤙
It's like they had a patient on the operating table and they were like, 'hey, we're going to limit you to 500 calories per day, but we'll implant an extra heart, a couple of extra ears and we'll inject steroids into your right leg.' Anyway, good evening.
And even then, "successful" would be difficult to really define, as like Bastiat likes to say, their are always to sides of a coin during a government intervention: the seen, and the unseen. Meaning that maybe the unseen (what would have been achieved with this money if it had remained in the hand of those who earned it in the fist place) would have been immensely more beneficial for the society overall.
Just imagine a world where productive people can keep the fruit of their labor instead of letting it in the hand of less of not productive people. Earth would be a place that we can't even imagine right now, in a positive way of course.
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UndaFlow 1 year ago
Important points. Was having the conversation on the difference between good and bad central planning. We cited the city of Manchester in England as a collaborative regeneration between business and local government. There needs to be a combination of vision, financial acumen, good leadership and a real aspiration for the betterment of the people
Read "Confessions of an Economic Hitman". Egypt displays the classic symptoms. Install a puppet president, flood the country with loans(debt) to build useless infrastructure built by your own crooked corporations, the country eventually defaults on the debt repayments, the utitlies and resources are seized by the lenders as collateral, the crooked president flees the country to some mansion in Florida and a huge Swiss bank acct, he country collapses, the people are impoverished. Rinse and repeat. Isnt mercantilism wonderful.? The west was built on this type of plunder, it's now bust and collapsing. The east is rising.
We have to defund the political process. We have to decentralise the control of the issue of money. Until we do this , voting won't help us. The owners of the infinite money machine just buy up everything including the votes. What we are seeing everywhere is the effect of the ability to print infinite amounts of money by a small (hat) clique. This too will end.
Yep the tools are comings but their will still be challenges when it comes to buying things in the real world. Unless the web of Bitcoiners becomes big and dense enough to be able to find anything you need by paying with Bitcoin, without even bothering asking to the State
GM Lyn. I used to live in Egypt for 7 years. Met some of the people, who have been involved into the new government city. (business partners of my best Egyptian friend). At that time I was involved, building one of the biggest sport centres in Cairo (Rehab). These people were so corrupt, that I couldn't work for them. What's the MIC for the US is the Building Industrial Complex for Egypt. I've seen EU supported street networks for a "town" without houses in the dessert. Schools for Bedouin kids without teachers. And many other things. Unbelievable.
The only thing we need to know about economics is that the rules must arise from the bottom up, not the top down. Decentralised from every man and woman making daily economic decisions for their own lives. That is the solution. Dont get confused by the myriad of bollocks words they use for the same top-down control. MMT, CBDC, communism, central banks etc is all different words for the same centrally controlled top-down slavery.
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wertyyryyr 1 year ago
"Maybe they should have done this before" it's a very central planning mindset as if they had better knowledge they could have done better. Just leave it to the market, where distributed information and knowledge always works better.
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Hodlrtchico 1 year ago
Good morning back at you. I love your stories from Egypt.
Sounds similar to "Confessions of an Economic Hitman," just with a few Tomahawk Missals thrown in for motivation. Google Morning.
That’s my point actually. The private market does the details and path dependence better than central planners, even if the broad strokes are similar. Details like the order in which they did things are precisely the problem with central planning in the first place. My point about the order is to highlight *where and how* those types of inefficiencies build up in the central planning process vs the private sector process.
True, but this one is recent, specific, and not as extreme as communism. This is a mixed economy but with a very specific decade-long burst of central planning expansion on top of it. It shows, yet again, how a bunch of reasonably intelligent people who want mostly rational things (better transportation infrastructure, well-designed cities to alleviate major Cairo congestion, new development on beautiful coasts for tourist inflows, more energy generation, etc) can still fuck things up pretty badly, because central planning inherently has so many massive shortcomings and inefficiencies compared to private alternatives.
thanks for the thoughtful answer Lyn. Governments always seem to try and centrally plan their way out of all the messes they centrally plan themselves into, then sprinkle in a side dish of taxation and fiat printing to round it off.
The rea$on 4 120 billi0n ext debt is 2 prevent an0ther rev0lUtion of the #people & keep them as their $laves 2 pay the debt.