Thanks for your explanation. I really am with you in one sentence of your note at least: "Now, making laws about this is very different. The law should not change based on what people believe. " So religion should be kept out of law making. I think we both life in liberal societies. They are liturally based on freedom of religion, freedom of expression and the freedom to do whatever you want aslong as it does not take away any freedom from someone else. This is incompatible with enforcing whatever Jesus said. Laws are based on proper reasoning. Our societies are not depending on christianity. Christianity is depending on the society. And I am quiet sure most priest would interpret said phrase about throwing the first stone as as a trap. Since it will be most probably be based on the fact that no human is without faults (sins). Jesus was very clearly liberating from those who want to enforce power over others. He forgives the murderer, forgives the thieves, forgives those who betrayed. So I do not see any way, you could use Jesus to argue for verbal or physical violence against LGBTQ. But I would say our society is really past this still reasoning based on what is written in the bible. Theologs can reason about the bible. But I really can only accept good reasoning. I think Jesus was a very good person in reasoning well. I would love to argue with him. But Jesus was not a liberator through enforcing some old writings out of the Thora. So shouldn't we.