Na, I have to undo my answer. I am ancap. So I am capitalist. Anarchy with capitalism is no half-truth, its the basic foundation of human interaction. Capitalism is aknowlegdement of privat property. Thats all. I dont need to share my car if I dont want to, I bought it. I used my time and energy to earn it. Its mine. I am FREE to borrow it to you or not. I´d say everything but A is half-truth. If someone puts time and energy on the table for everyone as free will, its called altruism, if it is demanded its called socialism. Altruism is a character trait, not an economic principle.

Property (is we think about it today) conceptually speaking is a half truth and so capitalism logically also has to be. Property is based on two systems: - A: Respect / Fear - B: Force / Violence There is no natural, consistent, inherent truth about property. Every being is born the same and has the same right to planet earth. The only difference is that some have the capacity to enforce their will upon others. If capitalism was true, then that would mean, the first human on planet earth would not only own planet earth, but also all humans born on planet earth (since birth is based on the consumption of resources from that planet). Now lets say you take a piece of wood from a tree and create a door. The door still doesnt magically, inherently belong to you. Humans around you might respect or fear you and let you keep that door for yourself. But there exists no universal database that is tracking: door 75935 belongs to human 98636.

True. But private communication and private money as in privacy for the first time changes the assumptions. The power then lies in the potentiality (potens) to reveal oneself. Privacy is a prerequisite for private ownership. So yes, no society ever was capitalistic in its true sense nor could it have been. Individual vs. Collective is also a bad understanding of how this place is run by god or whoever created this matrix.

The two systems are the once moving nature. Young lion has respect or fear of old lion. He needs to make a decision. Which may or may not end up in violence. Why would you try to play against nature? I for instance prefer living under the NAP. But when I buy property, after I spend time and energy to earn it, then I might not want to share it, or just with friends and loves once. I paid for it. Property is the basis of human civilization, not only for real estate. Just about everything. This is why specialization works. And capitalism is just the motor that trys to create win-win situations. "you will own nothing and be happy" does not work. Capitalism is not "some own a lot"... Then you really should dive into Austrian economics a bit more. Hard money creates wealth for all. Monopolies are very hard to hold on a sound money standard. Unless they build products for the best quality for the cheapest price. But chances are someone finds a more efficient way to produce and gets the advantage. That's why smartphones are more affordable compared to the first once. That's human development. It thrives on purpose. Fiat Money is the problem, not capitalism. Without capitalism people are just.... Soulless Blobs 😅 Bottomline: Capitalism is true, it just can't thrive in the potential it has with Fiat and taxation, and so called "regulation". As if fiat wasn't bad enough already. (evidence...50s 60s...golden times)

I think we both have brought up our arguments, neither changed their opinions and humanity as usual will go on in wars between capitalists and communists as it always has 👍. "People without capitalism are soulless blobs", replace capitalism with state or god and you maybe will notice that this is just empty ideology speak 😅.

No its not. You can live without god, you can also live alone in the woods doing everything by yourself. But when it comes to "whos gonna get me meat"... "whos gonna bake me bread?" Whos gonna build me that part i need to fix my car?! Guess what, not possible without capitalism. But thats what you dont get. You think "capitalism is bad because companies"... no, its not, thats socialist talk... You even compare it to religion, when it is as far from a religion as it can be... When you sell your car to me without state THATS CAPITALISM. Or you just give it to me, since you dont own it anyway from your POV😉

At this point you are just making things up, putting words in my mouth I never told. So even if I had time, continuing this debate would be completely pointless, but lucky I do not have time for this. Now go ahead and tell me how wrong all of the things I never said are, the stage is yours!

It's because only the third are really anarchist Anarchist is no domination, no hierarchies If there are rich mens, they can't say they are anarchiste they are libertarian, ... Almost or totally crypto-fascists (crypto in sense "stealth") Anarchy come from long history of Wight for liberty, since Hayatmarket, since Louise michel, since Kropotkine, since Lucie Parsons fifht against supremacism, since communalism... THAT is real anarchism Hère they are all bitcoiner libertarians, fzr right, no anarchist at all

Wight/fight 👀...

You are not anarchist lol You juste are yet another capitalst, crypto-fascists and you love lying 👀

Ok so i make up natural things 😅 I make up natural human behaviour. Normal human to human interaction and how development works and the motivation behind it... Sure... Alright... Communist talking points, nothing so far to counter my points. I´m done here

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