calling zcash a “fair launch” and comparing it to bitcoin is insane gaslighting just own it investors and founders got a massive allocation with a lockup

see, that's your issue right there, and you seem to be blind to it. many others exhibited similar behavior. you've already decided a priori that zcash is haram, and part of the haram is that it had a "premine" (except not really, it was a dev tax, not a premine, as I have established beyond reasonable doubt to anyone arguing in good faith). so you want zcash to be "bad" as a foregone conclusion, and that's why you erroneously insist on the premine angle (it isn't, it's a dev tax), and why you've a) not rebuked my argument and b) deflected and whatabouted constantly on every round (like the other two guys). to see the nuance is to potentially taint the haram label you've preemptively placed and already a priori concluded must be true, so you don't, and this makes your reasoning fallacious. I invite you to do the following: read all my notes in this thread again, including the one you just replied to, and tell me where I: 1) claim or not claim that zcash had a "fair launch" 2) am defending zcash 3) claim or not claim that a dev tax is a reasonable thing. you people are missing the entire point because your biases compromise your chain of thought. Juraj pointed that out, but you didn't listen. I'm pointing it out, but you're still not listening. the full extent of what I have been saying is exactly what I have argued, not more, not less: it's innacurate and sloppy to call a dev tax a premine, for the reasons I've already explained and won't bother repeating again. it's you who has a predetermined conclusion to prove which makes you put words in my mouth like saying I called zcash a fair launch - again, I invite you to tell us exactly where I claimed that. you won't be able to, because I claimed no such thing. the only thing I claimed, and I stand by it: calling a dev tax a premine is sloppy and innacurate.