Oh, if you are talking about big boys, you should have named them. Don’t expect any privacy there, that goes without saying. HSTS actually works if you are afraid of mitm. DNSSEC has to be used too and your resolver has to be someone you trus and over secure channel. 🐶🐾🫡
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My issue is they make the devices and OS. And I’m not sure we should (read: please don’t) trust apps directly, to be honest, as they are a target vector.
External signing devices are great. What’s missing is a layer perhaps where the external signing device says, “hey, your last message to Dave was to pubkey X, it’s now Y” or similar - however I favour dumb signing devices.
A trusted OS would be ideal to perhaps have this security layer to keep/compare state and make it obvious/transparent - it’s just painful that we can’t trust the OS.