French gov and UK gov thought exactly like that about Germany after WWI and it lead to WWII very quickly. This is a never ending scheme, of conquest, revenge, ego and power.
We should be focusing on stoping the killings ASAP and defund our respective mafias (the State), rather than finding a winners. You can't win anything if you are dead.
There is no such generalized hate between fellow humans out of the coercitive and manipulative hands of Nation States
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The French and UK governments barely defeated Germany. The economic restrictions on Germany were clearly insufficient, and as Germany started rearming nothing was done even though Germany was clearly violating the conditions imposed on it.
Meanwhile, after WW2, when Germany was actually crushed with millions more dead and their economy was truly collapsed, peace finally was achieved.
The lesson here is to actually defeat Russia, thoroughly, without holding back.
Same with Gaza. It is absurd that a single member or supporter of Hamas is allowed to live.
How the fuck do you imaginestopping the killing ASAP before the aggressor state is collapsed? By telling a dictator pretty please? Do you imagine that if ukraine surendered some territory the russia would stop having imperialist ambitions? Same with “greater Israel”. These psychos have ambitions much wider than the current conflicts and if you stop them at one front they will start attacking the next at the first opportunity. I agree with Peter that Hamas members should be disempowered just want to remind that Hamas is a consequence of Israels expansion and not the other way around.