Kanzan, I don't give a single fuck about how other people use their bitcoin. It's their problem. Majority of bitcoin hodlers are statists that will sell/lose their sats. I couldn't care less about anyone really besides myself, my family and my friends. Bitcoin is for cypherpunks, anti-statists and freedom-maxis, everyone else who doesn't fit that description will NGMI.

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its germaine to the discussion how these things are *actually used* if 1% of "bitcoiners" actually use it in a self-sovereign way that is the anonset you and I are hiding in. for example up to a certain date all my coins went through Whirlpool and were sent to cold storage. from a Chainanal point of view I have an anonset of other Whirlpool txs. they know some utxos went in, were mixed and came out the other side. thats opt-in privacy. it's SOMETHING but relatively speaking, it's not a very large anonset. because 99% of users do nothing. in contrast to monero. you see where this is going... Bitcoin has opt-in privacy. weak opt-in privacy since there's no good tools right now. even if you jump through all the LN hoops and do everything right its still a tiny group of people doing that. so no, transactions are not, in any way "private" and there's a reason why we have a *default private* L1. if yall were actually intellectually honest you'd stop trying to pretend like theres anything equivalent.