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No. No conditions. You enter the country illegally, you don't belong here. It's not the citizens that are being locked up/deported, it's the illegal immigrants who have no documentation to prove they're here legally. As for deploying the National Guard, you go after the governors and mayors not doing their jobs, not the president whose hand is forced by those incompetent fools. The only people who have been dehumanized, especially in the last decade, have been conservative Christians. "Fascist" this, "nazi" that, it's constant demonizing of political opponents and, thank heaven, we're done playing around with that. It's also not our side that incites violence, by the way. There's no "both sides" to this anymore. There really isn't. The right doesn't want civil war. We didn't burn down cities like the left did after a degenerate drug addict and woman-beater died due to his own stupidity. We were the ones who set up vigils, prayer meets, etc. We're the ones who are PEACEFULLY pushing for change at the civil level, rather than pushing for violence. We're the ones adhering to the values of this great country. Meanwhile, the far left are the ones literally celebrating the death of an innocent husband and father whose only crime was respectful, peaceful debate. If you want a reason for our anger and our resolve, it's the fact that we are sick and tired of being falsely accused of being nazis, fascists, white supremacists, whatever... all because we're not in 100% alignment with the ridiculous views of the far left. We're sick and tired of trying to be moderate, only to receive spit or a fist in our face as a result. We were the ones ALWAYS trying to talk it out, have respectful debate, and the guy who led that charge was just brutally murdered by a psychotic monster that epitomizes the values of the far left. There is absolutely ZERO "both sides" to this issue. None whatsoever.
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Wasn't talking about national guard, he deployed the Marines (since recalled as it was ruled illegal but he wants to do it again if that can be overturned): https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/judge-rules-trump-illegally-deployed-national-guard-l-rcna224779 Crime has been hovering around all time lows for many years so the entire premise is flimsy at best. The national guard can't do anything about cartels or drug/gun/human smuggling, which are the biggest issues. If you believe ICE is acting in good faith then don't use unbadged, masked agents who were working at McDonald's yesterday to snatch people literally off the street. From a non-sycophant perspective it looks a lot like totalitarian tactics. That's one reason you see people calling the right Nazis and y'all never seem to recognize that Trump's rise to power was based on his encouraging lies and violence against people who he disagrees with. Lock her up, Obama's birth certificate, all this stuff: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-violent-rhetoric-timeline/680403/ Or dehumanizing by calling opponents vermin: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-compares-political-opponents-vermin-root-alarming-historians/story?id=104847748 The right in general seems to think of teans people as some demonic subclass intent on raping their children and murdering them. "Illegals" are so subhuman they don't deserve basic human rights or dignity. Chain them, detain them and ship them to CECOT. If that's not dehumanization I don't know what is. These are what brought the left to the point of believing Trump is a dangerous authoritarian. This all happened before the left started getting snipey. The right refuses to see this and take any responsibility for their actions. You set up vigils, yes, as did the left for all their martyrs. The violence came later for the left and the right immediately started yelling civil war as soon as the video of Kirk came out, before anything was known about the shooter. (There is still not much really known about the shooter, it looks like something is being covered up to me). The people celebrating Kirk's death are fucking idiots. But they're also not in power. They are mostly slobs who work minimum wage jobs in bumfuck places. This is your justification for dropping all semblance of civilized conversation? Boy, I hope no one compiles the millions of comments from people on the right over the last decade saying all the same things and worse. I don't know you and don't believe you're a Nazi or anything. I think right now you, among much of the online right, are grieving and upset at the senseless loss of an important person in your community. I can understand that. But it's not justification for further violence, especially since the right has total control of the federal government right now and any crackdown on the left will look more like the administration taking out personal and political grievances on people who have nothing to do with what happened. But the way, I follow this administration closely and agree with much of what they are trying to do. I can understand the desire to destroy the deep state etc. I believe the left overall is well intentioned and attempts to see reality through the lens of peer reviewed science, but in practice demonstrates ignorance of economics (mainly because they trust the scientific literature which is increasingly in a reproducibility crisis) and is as beholden to wealthy investors as anyone on the right, though they claim they aren't. I hope Trump is successful in bringing peace to the worl, he seems to genuinely want that. But he's a human, a politician, he's flawed, as is everyone else in his administration. He uses dangerous tactics to build his own personal power and wealth. If you believe Whitney Webb, he's deeply connected to organized crime and the Epstein scandal. There are no easy answers here. Hope you come to recognize that.
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