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nobody 1 year ago
Moses, Confucius, the Buddha, Plato, Paul, and Augustine disagree. Virtuous living means adhering to moral frameworks derived from either natural or revealed law. I.e., obedience to a power higher than mankind.

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While i agree with the logical foundation here, I still consider "obedience" and "alignment" to be very different things. I also think the reason the semantics were shifted to "obedience" in the church was for a very explicit reason to the benefit of the church. Never forget that for the thousands of years in which all of their teachings were formalized (and changed drastically btw) they were the government.
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nobody 1 year ago
Also don't have long philosophical discussions on my do-list today ๐Ÿ™Œ but I think we agree that our decision to do or not do what some human asks us, no matter how forcefully, is not determined solely by that person in and of themselves. To live in that way would not be virtuous.
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