According to Lyn we'd need to "rebut and debate it" ah well I'm glad I don't have to now.

Yeah, I mean if a bunch of white boys want to get together for some weird co-op, then sure go ahead. But it can't start infringing on my life, liberty and property rights, that is where the Buck stops. There is collectivism in coercive and non-coercive sense. I am fine with people partaking in the latter, not the former.