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just because a leftist is drawn to permaculture doesn't mean their fascism goes away. that takes time, and may never fade. when you find something great, it's hard not to want to force it on others "for their own good." the far right isn't any better, though. you're identifying with moderate conservatives that have adopted permaculture, because that's probably what you are. My evolution was from religious right to moderate atheist to mid-anarchist to anarchists, but I live in the real world too.

What do you mean by “leftist?” Part of the psyop is to confuse people is by changing or blurring the definition of words. On a classical political scale a libertarian is an extreme leftist with a anarchist being as far left as one can get, politically speaking. Another part of the psyop is to get people to believe that personal morals are ethics fall along party lines. There are leftists that understand Austrian economics, live by the Ten Commandments and homeschool their kids. Just as there are conservatives that believe in Keynesian economics and want bigger government. Both people seem to defy the tenets of their political party. Don’t define people, especially yourself, by any “ist” or “isum” like “leftist” or “communism” it’s part of the game the unproductive class wants you to play. It’s a distraction to keep you from seeing what’s really going on around you.

Common current definition.

Permaculture seems to attract intellectuals and academics from the left more than from the right. A podcast I follow leans hard left, which is fine. I have no issue with someone being left or right. My experience is just that the folks further to the left in this space are more condescending and toxic. Maybe when enough MAGA folks get all permie or regen ag, I could say the same about them...it just hasnt been my experience that anyone with a conservative or right lean in the permaculture or regen ag space has the same tone or attitude. They mostly seem to be positive and uplifting. Even folks from the preparedness community...less doom and gloom from preppers in the space than outside. Just my experience though. I actually lean further left than you might think on some issues. Mostly because, as you mentioned, we live in the real world. The real world being a huge government thats followed the road of good intentions to sometimes not so great places...but is where we are so it is what it is. As for my place on the political spectrum, I guess it depends what the issue is. In general, I dont know that I fit anywhere on that spectrum at the moment. Maybe that makes me anarchist in ideals but a centrist in practice? Not trying to get to down in the weeds. There just seems to be more hate, jealousy, and negativity from that side of the space and I was puttinf that out there to see if I was crazy or not.

Didnt finish the note...as for not defining things, including myself...definitions, I think, are a requisite for a healthy, functioning society. I wasnt labeling or defining as a pejorative at all. Thats why I started with common current definition. I hear what you are saying about labels and definitions but when speaking in generalities you gotta use words that have meaning. Most people know what right and left are in todays context. I am sure you understand what I mean by leftist, as do the people on the podcasts I follow. They often mention the left as who they are and identify with. I enjoy many of their episodes and think many of the folks they have on are doing important work.

One more note! I agree that part of the plan for division and control is to increase the power of labels and definitions. I just dont have an issue using the words.

I read your notes. I agree with you on a lot of things. Under the current common definition of leftist. I consider the majority of Americans leftists. Not like a 51% majority, like a 99% majority.

The variation within groups is almost always greater than the variation between groups. In other words, your arbitrary ideological labels of left/right, libertarian/authoritarian, etc are just to suit a narrative you have already created for yourself. It’s all distraction. These labels and your fascination with them means you are distracted by them and that they are working as intended. Free yourself from this noise. The truth is, there are assholes in every camp, even yours. Most people are dumb (but not terrible) and just want to live their lives. The sooner we all identify with this truth instead of stupid arbitrary political divisions the better. #grownostr #thinkdangerously