I'm not sure, many 'crypto normies' use aster, uniswap, etc which are all DEXs built on smart contract chains and have the UX of a central exchange. With enough development that's possible with Monero. I think that goal would make our movement unstoppable. Also if natural adoption increases to a critical masse point, we won't have to beg for CEX listing. If it's undeniable that normies use Monero, the 'criminals only use it' narrative ceases its effect.