Here would be my wishlist experience for nostr newbies on mobile:
Have an easy to install a bundle of apps:
- Signer/vault: to be really simple and secure to hold my private key and sign events.
- Lightning wallet: Phoenix, Coinos or something like that
- Mobile relay & backup: ?? to backup notes and stuff privately
- Short notes client: Like Amethyst, primal or others
and optional:
- Pictures/Videos client: Olas or similar
- Music client: Wavlake or similar
- News client: Stacker News or similar
- Long form client: Habla news or similar
- Other apps: Donations with Geyser, podcasts with Fountain, etc.
And ideally the bundle would install super smoothly, like first it opens the Signer to let you create the key, it has a button to immediately import npub into the other apps. In just a couple clicks all should be done and set.
What if there would be NostrBundle app that works as an installer of these other apps. The technical side could be like Obtanium, but something that can be sneaked into AppStores. Maybe it would provide options like "Basic nostr", "Full blown nostr", etc., but the default experience should not ask many questions - for newbies this should really be a couple of button clicks and they can modify specifics later if they desire.
There also may need to be some NIPs for better communication and passing of stuff between the apps.
@Vitor Pamplona @Derek Ross @jb55
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@Zapstore is working on several ideas for app bundles, including bundles that individual apps can create to recommend to their users on an Intent call.
That would be great to have "Nostr beginner bundle" or similar on Zapstore, but it should be installable from Play Store and AppStore. Afaik Zapstore is not on those, right?
Not yet, I think.
There's been several conversations surrounding similar ideas and it almost seems like @Zapstore could fulfill a lot of this for the user. Recommending apps to install. No matter what is done, we need better onboarding and exposure to Nostr's other stuff.
Yes, really want to make this happen
Hopefully on Play Store later this year. Not a priority at the moment
I want a QR Nostr signer.
What do you mean by that? Like a device with a screen?
That's great! And with your bundle solution - can we just share a link with newbies to the bundle and it will be super easy for them to install the bundle from scratch & without having zapstore installed first?
Or is it going to be more steps? (The more steps, the more annoying and less valuable the solution)
Yea and camera
There are several moving parts to achieve that sort of user experience. All of them are open issues on Github already.
Without Zapstore installed first it gets tricky but I'll do my best
There has to be one app that includes everything, or there will be more specialized apps with functions currently spread across several apps. Additionally, many more features and options will likely emerge.
I think start.njump.me does quite a bit of heavy lifting as you said .. just need to add the bundle of softwares .. may be as you said .. light user .. heavy user .. developer profiles ..
But the problem with such autmation is users never get down to nitty gritty.. and thus won't be able to see the usp of #nostr ..
Yes! Airgapped QR signer... A poor man's hardware wallet on another device.
The NOA app sort of does this, but why it wants to generate your npub and sec instead of telling you to do it in amber which is their last step... I dunno.