I'm agreeing more and more with that! Except that I think the "unit" most incentivized to host/store/compute things is the community/group admin. Not the individual.

The unit that is really incentivezed is the unit that enough individuals incentives, either with money or relationships. Peergos.net has been running on fumes for more than a decade because on person cares enough and charges enough and gets enough grants. Ente's CEO had his first salary after 5 years. My point is, the Web solved hosting incentives long ago, and #Pkarr whole point was to allow for credible exit as reliably as DNS. #mlkut is basically porting Peergos privacy and Pkarr credible exist to one place, and hopefully if enough people like it I can donate to Peergos because their dedication for privacy is legendary.

Anyways, let me know if I should bother you with Mlkut news again when it is ready to deal with your usecases... well that also includes that if you want, you can contribute with a want-list of features for apps you are gravitating towards lately.

The public square trends towards AI slop; the private group trends towards a lasting community.

Sorry sir, but you lost me here. What's mlkut? What's Peergos? And how could Pkarr be a better solution for Communities/Groups?

The obsession with public squares is really strange. Why would I want a global public square? I have multiple public squares in my city which I avoid, why then would I want to visit one with shit from other ends of the world with niches that are completely meaningless and irrelevant to me?

#opengroups scales to infinity.

Peergos is an open alternative to Proton Drive offering end to end encrypted filesystem where the server is entirely a dumb host/storage. Put so far it relied on a centralised identity layer similar to Bluesky. Mlkut.org is my personal effort to port that e2ee filesystem to Rust, simplify it, and replace the centralised identity with Pkarr. As for why is that helpful, it is because Pkarr tells every client exactly who hosts your data at any moment in time giving you unbroken URLs and strong consistency, while the rest of Mlkut gives you full control over who can read and/or write to any folder or file in your filesystem. That allows you to use wide variety of open source apps to author and share and publish, but it also allows for collaboration and you can compose these folders to build an emergent community, like forums or groups with moderation etc... there are things that you can't do with only these primitives, but for small world usecases, you can go so far with only this. Let me put it this way; if you can imagine building it with Proton Drive / Google Drive, you should be able to build it with Mlkut, but also no vendor lock.

Thanks! I'm keeping that last phrase in mind :Check:

if you need a drive to store files and share with others, you might also want to check hyperdrive 🙂

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I feel like this is now a majority opinion here, vis a vis public squares not being the way ahead. The tricky part is that to give up on the public square is to accept the need for some form of moderation—and moderation in almost all its forms is traditionally frowned upon here.

Mostly because barely anyone can imagine moderation interop. Which is normal, since there are zero other places/protocols where that's possible.