from a healthy human living in harmony point of view it is pretty radical to: voluntarily give all your private information and money to slavemasters who gaslight and torture your family, or to give your childs to complete strangers for most of the day, or to say that drawing a cross on a paper should give an elect few the power to commit genocide... seems more radical than any masochist/cuck fetish I could imagine ...but yeah of course any side can flip it to their perspective