Yes, it's very conducive to value add busiensses. it's just not very compatible with consumer electronics without services.

Why? Seems the vast majority of people would opt for the convenience of just buying open source consumer electronics rather than building it. Is the "incompatibility" based on competition stealing the design and outcompeting you with cheaper production?

That doesn't make sense. Why would a service provider pay the open source developer when they can just get the code for free? There's no incentive there. If you mean to suggest that the open source developer be the servive provider, they're still not being paid to write the software. Plus, even if they enjoyed and were good at operations, marketing and customer support, they'd be put under by other service providers who can operate at a fraction of the cost since they're not contributing to the development efforts.

As someone who produces open source hardware and the software that goes with it, the challlenge for me isn't technical, it's getting the word out there. I'm antisocial. If I solved that problem, and the hardware took off, what you suggested is exactly what would happen. The developer doesn't get paid for the software and doesn't get any kickbacks from 3rd party hardware manufacturers. Consumers choose the cheapest option and so the creators suffer to the benefit of the manufacturers. It's not hypothetical. It happened to MakerBot. It's happening now to Prusa. There are tons of dead kickstarter and crowdsupply projects because aftet people have the hardware, there's little incentive for them to keep paying for software maintenance. The only counteracting forces I've seen are: 1. Change the hardware license to be non-commercial 2. Try to guilt consumers into buying from the developer or authorized resellers or something 3. Bake the softwsre cost into the product and only sell one batch The first has some potential is IP laws can be enforced internationally and at a cost the developer can afford. The second is relying on people choosing agains what is in their best (financial) interest. Now, if everyone had their needs met and had disposable income to spare, this might work, but it's hard to put that hypothesis to the test. The third is the popular route for both open and closed source products. This is why support windows are just a few years. It's why the kickstarter projects are a flash in the pan. It's why we need to keep buying new products every few years instead of just uograding our existing ones. It's what capitalism does: produces more. The new stuff is not necessarially better, just more.

The problem is when capitalized competitors take advantage of the open source work. Not the customers.

This is the nub of the difference between product and service Hardware clearly falls into the former, and initially so did software. However the last 10+ years have seen commercial software move to a (solely) subscription model which provides recurring revenue and substantial profits That model is becoming far more pervasive and extends to infrastructure (AWS, Azure etc), and now just wait for it to be extended into new areas like cars (eg: BMW doing subscriptions for remotely turning on seat warming feature in winter) Where does product end and service begin? As a consumer i like to buy product and if it’s good - or crucial for me - I’ll happily pay support. Xmind for mind mapping is a great example where i happily pay every year because i use it a lot and as a software developer i like to pay for good stuff 🙂 Support can provide a revenue stream as NVK noted, but that model is dependent on the need for support which tired back to criticality. Consumers don’t generally care too much - businesses certainly do. Redhat (which IBM eventually acquired) built a hugely successful business providing value add services over open source .. but again .. software Hardware is a tough one and I’ve never been involved in production but appreciate the skill and effort and the challenge of the pure product model

Feller rocker light switches from 1932 were better than anything we could buy since then. I feel you.