How you see things:
> but all these "devs" who are into "decentralization" and were supposed to like Nostr apparently don't give a shit about it (because their entire discourse is a lie, they don't really care about technology, they only care about what their leftist friends think of them, see for example that guy who wrote "protocols, not platforms" and is literally being paid by a platform now) and are happy with Bluesky and their lies, so who else can we target?
The reality:
More than a few devs came to Nostr from ActivityPub, OStatus, SSB, etc. Queer, left-wing, Linux neckbeards, people from countries that were put on the U.S. "naughty list", etc. They contributed a bunch to the Nostr ecosystem and were either ignored or actively managed out by Nostr insiders. The very same people who pushed them out are now predictably virtue signalling about how everyone outside the hard inner circle is "virtue signalling".
> The only other demographic I can think about are people into politics that lean more to the right, but most of these seem to in love with Elon Musk still.
Ding, ding, ding! Can we admit that the only devs and users most Nostrichs want or trust on Nostr are more of the same right-wing BTC Twitter crowd that effectively don’t want to be here?
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Who are these people who got actively managed out by Nostr insiders? I am not aware of any of that occurring.
What good contributions got ignored? I'm sure this has happened, it is not possible to prevent it entirely, but I am not aware of any specific case or any movement for ostracizing contributors of any type.
> Who are these people who got actively managed out by Nostr insiders? I am not aware of any of that occurring.
I could tag a whole list of deleted npubs here. It would not change Nostr’s weaponized "unawareness". And targeted attacks. Nothing will.
Nostr has either silenced or pushed away most of the non-blessed devs who tried to build anything here. The few who are still around have given up trying to fix the social aspects of Nostr and retreated to other sruff. Actually, forget folks coming from other protocols. Not even BTC builders who are not into right wing nonsense can stand Nostr.
> What good contributions got ignored? I'm sure this has happened, it is not possible to prevent it entirely, but I am not aware of any specific case or any movement for ostracizing contributors of any type.
The NIP repo alone has plenty of PRs with comments and support that went nowhere because none of the insiders care. I know you want to shut the NIP repo down, but this isn't a fix to the core issue that Nostr is not welcoming to outsiders of the "wrong" kind.
There are maybe a couple of dozen people able to get the current crowd on Nostr to try anything to a meaningful standard. In practice, decision making os down to tiny group, with a lot of dressing up to hide the fact that the Nostr zeitgeist does not want "outsiders". "People don’t care about tech" is just an excuse.
You may believe, or at least try to convince yourself, that Nostr is a meritocratic and technology-oriented experiment. Unfortunately, it is neither. It is just as ideologically driven and hostile to the "wrong" ideas as Bluesky.
You do not need to bother replying to this. I will not read it and I will not be back on Nostr. I just want to leave a note in homage to the fallen.
laanwj
there's nothing for me here—i didn't escape so much as drifted away
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