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For all of us who lived through that time it is difficult because one or both of these guys caused a lot of tension (some necessary and some not). They weren't really the type of people capable of putting positivity into the world, to encourage development across the broader ecosystem or fostering an environment for new people to discover #bitcoin. Most people intuitively knew to stay away and not engage as it was neither the time nor the place to attack and threaten the US government. Their approach lacked perspective, was tactically unsound and didn't serve Bitcoin in the sense they pushed away more people than they encouraged from both an investment and soft dev perspective. Obviously everyone feels shit about the situation - especially for family members who may not have bought into the 'fight the govt' calling but are now hurt by the outcome. What we learnt from this is this - don't be like these guys. Don't hate on plebs who don't yet understand self custody, don't be toxic towards other devs who might be taking a differing approach, don't create unnecessary splinters or attempt to fracture community because others can't or won't live up to your standards. We only really have an avenue to win if we are willing enough to listen to each others ideas, adapt and integrate. If you cut through their child like mantras and direct threats to the US Govt there was a lot of sensible stuff these guys had to say primarily around custody etc however they got tuned out due to the nature of their communication approach. We don't win by threatening or shouting down the US Govt. We win when our tools and methods are 10x faster than their legacy systems and the market demands access to Bitcoin due to sheer performance preference. What did these guys not understand? 1. First you prove sustained network resilience for SOV stability 2. Second you build out the fastest horse in the MOE (instant final settlement) race. 3. Third (and only AFTER the first two) do you layer on top of Bitcoin for privacy preservation needs across various market use cases. We are nowhere near step three and these guys were way out over their skis in that regard.
2025-11-29 12:20:19 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent
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What a complete load of shit. Several times you mention threatening the government, yet Samourai Wallet paid for attorneys to draft a response to proposed FinCEN rule changes and got some 20 or 30 industry participants to cosign the message since the rule change effected everyone. WTF threats are you talking about? Not capable of encouraging development? Samourai Wallet gave $50k to the Tor project and they had over 20 contributors to their own software. Their approach was unsound? Show me any ZeroLink CoinJoin implementation other than Whirlpool, I'll wait. Pushed people away? There was over 10k BTC in unspent Whirlpool capacity at the time of the arrests and that trend was going up and to the right. You make it sound as though Samourai Wallet was unapproachable and "hated on plebs" which is total bullshit. If anyone approached them with a cocky sarcastic attitude then they received attitude right back. Anyone who approached them willing to learn and not be a dick was treated with mutual respect. People got out of Samourai Wallet's attitude what they put in. Toxcic towards devs taking a different approach? Samourai poured significant resources into research and demonstrated technical flaws only to be met with aggression and doxing from other developers. If you don't like the way they communicated then that's fine but don't act like that somehow justifies 5-years in prison. People like you who are cheer leading for the state to lock people in cages because they said something you don't like make me sick.
2025-11-29 13:26:56 from 1 relay(s) ↑ Parent 1 replies ↓ Reply