Oh, I see, those would be called cantillionaires.
While they are actively violating personal liberties by abusing state power for their own benefit, they are are an emanation of the state.
As long as enough people will keep believing the superstition that what is illegitimate for an individual to do (expropriation, murder, compulsion) becomes legitimate and just if you are a politician, a soldier, or a judge, the state will maintain its status of religion and all of us will have to bear the consequences.
So I guess the meeting point is that, if your OP was actually referring to cantillionaires, then yes, they do violently extract wealth and we fully agree on the topic.
In this case I was wrong, and you are not, in fact, a socialist :-)
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I mean, I don’t know what I am, or what am not. I don’t like labels, I don’t like a dual party system… I’m just a “Sai”.
I love things like, consensus.
Trustless systems. Immutable ledgers.
I love honesty. I like to see teamwork, I like to see when a person puts a degree of extra effort, sometimes for their selves, sometimes for others. Acts of selflessness, and kindness.
It seems pretty obvious to me that if we as the human race can stop bickering, and start having compassion for eachother, especially our young people, that we can achieve great things.
I believe that value FOR value is crucial, and we should be rewarded for virtuous acts. We should make art, make music, make love, and try to leave the world a little better than when came into it.
I know there’s evils in the world.
There are evil people, there are people with diminished capacities, both self inflicted and inherited, and our species could never be PERFECT on an Individual basis, but we can and should strive to do better as a species.