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well i just want BTC. Today I had the winning noob argument actually: "answer this question: will the US$ be worth MORE or LESS Venezuelan Bolivars in 4 years? will the CHF be worth MORE or LESS US$ in 4 years? If needed extend that to 10 or 20 years" "Once you answer yes to both of those then you have the answer to: will 1 BTC be worth more or less [fiat currency of your choice INCLUDING the CHF] in 4 years"