I don't know how you came up with me saying it's arbitrary or that we agree on that. Or that borders or nations are "made up" I'm not sure what you think saying something is "made up" will win you either. Words are made up. We agree that they have certain meanings. If we didn't agree on that we wouldn't effectively communicate. I mean I would like to live amongst people who look, speak, and act mostly like I do. But the more people who are manipulated into thinking like you for pretty silly reasons the less possible it is for me to get what I want. Why should I be forced to live amongst people that don't share my values just because they're doing it "peacefully"? Why should anyone be able to move somewhere and change the social landscape of a place just because they're not doing it violently? Do you know what ethnocide is? You're essentially saying that ethnocide is fine as long as the invaders are being nice about it. Are you not?

Replies (1)

you posted the definition of a nation. now compare that with switzerland (4 languages, no common language) or the usa (people are coming from europe, were not born there, is full of different "races") ask yourself for what are borders necessary? it is about control, authority, influence not about living with similar minded people in peace. what are you defending? it just creates divide between people/groups. you see it sometimes inside a country (left vs. right) and sometimes between countries. in these cases it is never about respecting the other and his view, it is always about: i am right and you are wrong don't strawman me, i never said you should be forced to do anything. i am for the absolute opposite, i am against force and authority and also ethnocide. you live how you think is the right way to live and if you change yourself because your neighbour is not your ethnicity that is a you problem... take responsibility and don't put it on another group of "bad" people. that is maybe the essence: every human has different views and instead of accepting that, we are drawing arbitrary "borders" which divide us. arbitrary in a sense that it is a slippery slope, you can't define it. as demonstrated with the definition of a nation at some point i stopped believing in the superstition called authority