It wasn’t a SIM swap. I have EFANI. I think they got access via a ZOOM call and screen sharing and they inserted malware or cloned my cookies. These guys are getting better and better. Moral: never do a ZOOM call with an unknown party. In this case I checked and the emails and names were legit Bloomberg interviewers. But of course fake.
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Btw Larry, even with EFANI I would still recommend having no phone number anywhere in online accounts(unless literally can't use the app without, which is rare). Most have a private key sort of setup can use for backup + authenticator app for 2FA. Just my opinion. No phone number makes sim swap actually impossible.