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Just saw Threema's website again. Seems like they are open source now and tout Swiss data residency. Back in 2016 I was considering secure alternative to WhatsApp but then signal had just started to mature. Threema I believe was closed source, Germany based company, and required upfront payment limiting network adoption. Good to see them evolved, thanks for sharing!
How would you create a message without Metadata? That's pretty impossible Also, working on deleting dms is a waste of resources, you can't unsend a letter, you can't unsay a sentence, you don't need to be able to delete dms as long as they are secret.
I dont like how Threema purposely misleads and lies to users on their comparison chart. I barely looked at threema for 30 seconds and this is what i see on their webpage: "Telegram is not encrypted messaging". This is clearly a lie despite all the other shortcomings of telegram, could have just told the truth and make it easy. For this lie, they cannot ever be trusted nor should they ever be trusted. Simplex rules.
Telegram hardly qualifies as an encrypted messaging app since it doesn't have end-to-end encryption enabled by default, and there's not even an option for group chats.