I'm watching a video in which the narrator is going through an article that argues that Western states "must" be the ones to develop general AI, as opposed to China, for example.
The author says that broad AI will supply whatever nation that develops it with "billions of scientists", so scientific and technological development, specifically military technology, would burn through decades of human work in years or less. The culmination of this would be AGI giving birth to hyperintelligence .
I remain skeptical. It's not only the infrastructure that such levels of output require -- Stargate project or not. It's the infrastructure that *materializing* those hypothetical scientific breakthroughs require.
The AGI may very well come up with the whole tech tree required to produce a warp drive (as I said earlier, I'm stuck watching Star Trek these days). But then we have to make all those things required to produce it. New materials, new mining rigs to extract them, new plants to process them and assemble them, and so on and so forth. And what about the testing? Will we just get rid of testing? Will we accept AI models and simulations ("projections", they'll call them) instead?
I just don't see it.
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So AGI needs to be owned by trigger happy war mongering Western states with totalitarian aspirations versus already totalitarian China? I would like a third option please
FOSS. The question is, this would open the door to all these "crypto AI" people that I've been maligning for the last couple of years so hard xD
I honestly don't see another way that the people can compete with the vast centralized AI farms, than decentralized shared compute networks. Could they be powered with BTC as the economic incentive to run nodes? I don't know enough about the tech, but I don't think so.
But anyway, my main point wasn't this, but that AGI or even hyperintelligence can produce theory and knowledge. But then you still have to translate that into material things, and materials do not move at the speed of neural networks and electrons.
There may be a lot to explore and expand into that doesn't require moving us bags of mostly water around. Material things are only needed for beings who can't perceive the universe beyond 4 dimensions.
Also if we can fit intelligence into a little spongy space limited by the size a vagina I'm pretty sure massive datacenters are not what the long term embodiment of agi will look like. Whether agi is possible to achieve I think yes because we already have billions of examples of gi in our little gravity well. Although I have come to the realization that humans act more like LLM's most of the time, regurgitating existing information and appearing smart doing it, as a mental shortcut that now mostly serves the exploitation of humanity by a relative few men behind the curtain
OK I can agree with all that, but I was specifically addressing a short to mid term. The trigger for my comments was a video about the "Stargate project". That has a 10-15 year horizon at the very least, just to build energy infrastructure.
