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I hope Mastodon succeeds in general, just because it's much closer in form to Nostr.. But I guess people have to actually want a decentralized platform to succeed, not just be "Twitter without Elon", aka Bluesky...
I was on bitcoin mastodon, but I lost my account since the instance shut down. Federated is better than centralized, but there are still issues...
The sad part is that as time goes on the domesticated normie wants this. The trend is real.
Shit I didn't expect KYC World to become a reality in US so soon. I'm hoping this will wake up a lot of normies. My hopium dose for the day at least.
I mostly use it to track news from cyber security folks. That community mostly migrated from Twitter to Mastodon several years ago.
I think Nostr is uniquely immune to these laws … because accounts and content (can be) 💯controlled by users and because individual services are able to be distributed across many apps. Social apps can start by offloading key generation and management to designated apps that do only this, and nothing else. SECTION 2.a > “Digital service" means a website, an application, a program, or software that collects or processes personal identifying information with Internet connectivity.” SECTION 4.1 > “A digital service provider may not enter into an agreement with a person to CREATE AN ACCOUNT with a digital service unless the person has registered the person's age with the digital service provider.” https://legiscan.com/MS/text/HB1126/id/2988284
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Being open source is not good enough. Nostr clients need to ACTUALLY be non-custodial. We need BETTER tools for users to “login”. NSEC login for “native apps” is going to bite us in the ass, once the lawyers start paying attention. Separation of concern is the only sustainable solution (using dedicated signing apps and services that do NOT otherwise process or store event data). We need better browser extensions and native signing apps that WORK … especially on mobile platforms. #nostrdev #scalenostr
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These are two fantastuc loopholes. Nice find. It's amazing what you discover when you t read the law/regulations directly instead of reading articles and summeries instead!
Keypairs are not accounts to begin with. I dont think its fair to put Nostr clients under 'digital service' either, because clients are tools, not a service provided. All these things just assume server oriented architectures. Not sure if these people understand this though. Relays on the other hand might face issues, but keeping them small might help in practice.
Now I’m no lawyer (I hope to hire one though … ) but it looks like Mississippi law is gonna disagree with you about “nostr clients”. I’d wager that their definition of a “digital service”, as one that “collects or processes personal identifying information”, is gonna encompass any Nostr client that sends events to relays. The term “processor” has special legal meaning in this context, as does “controller”. Nostr’s architecture lends itself well to separation of concern, allowing apps to perform discrete services on behalf of “user controllers”. Because events are signed by user held keys (and thereby “immutable”) relays simply storing events would not be considered controllers or processors. But I’m sure regulators will find other ways to regulate, if they wish.
But relays do access management on the content though, be it implicit or explicit via NIP-42. So why would they not be controllers? Anyway, all of this stuff is very tiresome. I honestly believe that the underlying problems/issues that cause these stupid laws everywhere can be adressed by Nostr in actuall practical ways. Atleast, that is assuming these laws atleast have the intent to solve problems and not just be an excuse for controll. In any case Nostr fixes that problem as well .
Like bitcoin, in nostr you just broadcast signed messages and other nodes decide to add it to their data set or not. If we can't do that in the US, then the first amendment means nothing.