If you can't follow how dumb your own logic is, then I'm sure you can't follow my logic. If you base a nation/organization/whatever on coercion, it is, de facto evil. It's really just that simple. If you can't steal, then it is not right for "the government" should not be allowed to do it, either. Any attempt to justify evil is naive and anathema to any consistent moral position, unless you're ok with evil as being "moral." Don't bother trying to say "that's an oversimplification. The real world doesn't work like that." Well, it has, and mostly isn't because of inconsistent, immoral people like you accept those base evils as "necessary." Evil is moot necessary, and saying it is is just disgusting.

why are you trying to assume my reply? the sheer arrogance of your entire approach is fucken stupid. what coercion are you talking about? you're in la-la land. in you want an anarchistic every man for himself world then good luck. you won't survive 5min btw. but, if you want to live in a community that has all the mod cons then everyone has to chip in for it. I've already said I don't agree with income tax. take a fire department for example. we all want them there inbthe event our property catches firr, so who pays for it and how? everyone shoukd chip in, but why should it be based on income? you don't get any additional benefit just because you're richer. same with policing. in fact the police spend more time dealing with the poorer people, so one could argue they should pay more. and the coercion aspect is not even relevant. your entire life is driven by coercion to some degree, decisions get based on avouding undesireable outcomes. and unfortunately you can't rely on everyone to be honest and pay their share, so there has to be some way of enforcing it.