Payments are already onioned, but tied to an htlc, all the middle node can see is entry and exit... bolt12 doesn't change that, it just adds a round trip for the invoice over that shitty onion network. (onions are slow and unreliable, Lightning should have been web-based not p2p but that's a separate matter) Utreexo doesn't change the fact that phones are not servers and that the internet is synchronous. Mobile nodes only exist for you to lose money to LSP's on overpriced channels. Lightning is for earning money while you sleep, which means, a server (or an old laptop, rpi, vps, whatever)

Interesting. Thanks for explaining. I'm not sure I understand what you mean by web [for lightning] though. I get your point about synchronisity.I haven't tested mobile lightning wallets in anger for a couple of years now, but assuming that receiving payments while the wallet app is backgrounded is still somewhat hit-or-miss across mobile OS's / versions / custom roms etc. My favoured model at the moment is use of Ed25519 as a user profile layer, and using PKARR for servers, payment details etc. This allows users to designate a number of Bolt12 (or whatever) addresses in order of preference... so perhaps synchronous as 1st, CoinOS as 2nd. Or even mw as 1st, monero as 2nd etc....

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early beta just dropped today.