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BitcoinIsFuture 2 weeks ago
Its not a freedom tech if it censors. My Bitcoin Knots client doesn't censor transactions. My Torrent client doesn't censor torrents. My Linux doesn't censor me either. My Gossip Nostr client doesn't censor me. Primal on the other hand censors people and is completed in centralized way. Absolut shithole. Core are compromised and corrupted by Citrea and others. Absolute shithole. Citrea are spammers who launched a shitcoin on top of Bitcoin. Absolute shithole. Jameson SLopp is a bad actor and absolute shithole together with Andy Back, Murch, Sjors, Matt, Ben - all of them shitcoin and spam facilitators. David Bailey is a scammer and absolute shithole. His Naka is a scam and Shitcoin Magazine is a propaganda shithole. Core V30+ is a malware and a result of spam and shitcoin facilitation by compromised Core. There are many more bad actors and useful idiots from the Coretards. BIP 110 and Bitcoin Knots are the hope for Bitcoin to remain Freedom Money. DATUM and Ocean is a hope for Bitcoin to get mining decentralized. Honest relays are hope for Nostr to remain freedom social network but as we see Primal is a trojan horse.

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BitcoinIsFuture 2 weeks ago
Also here is explained how Primal works.
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you are describing how most nostr clients work yes, this is not how primal works. primal doesn't allow you to read from multiple relays. it only reads from their relay, which they have complete moderation control of. there is no user choice. they censor and moderate on your behalf. people who use primal don't have any freedom to moderate their own feed. its no better than an X user. if your argument is people can switch to an actual nostr client then sure
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Goose_in_Gensokyo 2 weeks ago
Just asked this: (but now I see answer >.<) @Iggy
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#asknostr #primal I'm curious, why this event isn't visible in Primal webclient? If I try to open https://primal.net/e/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzqyujqpzdkqapn3kmalh5ar2jclt05atx83nnzxhnwdwmpvsp23ddqyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyd968gmewwp6kytcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcqyqel69rpthln I get 404, while it works in Nostrudel... (a lot of my events have same problem...) I tried to clear FF storage, opened it in "private tab", but still 404. Nostrudel tells me it's visible on a lot of relays, and next mine note, with exactly same list of "seen on relays:", is visible... even after I tried to re-broadcast it What am I doing wrong? Am I censored/banned by some reason?
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BitcoinIsFuture 2 weeks ago
From only one note its hard to conclude. Single note may not be visible sometimes but if that happens with multiple notes that may be a sign. In Fuckstr case Primal completely banned his entire profile, all of his notes. I can't find your note on Primal but I couldn't find it on Iris and Coracle. So may add couple of more relays to your client. Check for some robust relays maybe like nostr.mom or relay.nostr.net or nos.lol or yabu.me or unostr.one
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BitcoinIsFuture 2 weeks ago
but that said, I see your note in my Gossip Nostr client, just to know it, its a screenshot of a video in a browser with many open tabs
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Goose_in_Gensokyo 2 weeks ago
Here is full list of relay where my note was seen (according to NoStrudel web client) Seen on relays avatar relay.primal.net avatar relay.ditto.pub relay.mostr.pub avatar nostr.mom relay.momostr.pink avatar nostr-relay.amethyst.name avatar nostr.bitcoiner.social (it was in my screenshot: image ) Here is my note in NoStrudel web client directly🐈‍⬛ https://nostrudel.ninja/n/nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzqyujqpzdkqapn3kmalh5ar2jclt05atx83nnzxhnwdwmpvsp23ddqyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyd968gmewwp6kytcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcqyqel69rpthln59qup84qxv6cteyuz2dnv4hgrvr9xqe5gd295zpkut8tw84 and, if you click the "router" pictogramm (botton right), you'll see list of relays where this note seen (please see) *** May it be some problems with primal caching? they use cachiing servers, or so... : (they may be used by default in a lot of webclients/applications!!) : image
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Goose_in_Gensokyo 2 weeks ago
in case you misunderstand me: "screenshot of a video in a browser with many open tabs" isn't the "broken note", it's just my trying to #asknostr about the "broken note" Here is "broken note" (invisible in primal): nostr:nevent1qvzqqqqqqypzqyujqpzdkqapn3kmalh5ar2jclt05atx83nnzxhnwdwmpvsp23ddqyt8wumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyd968gmewwp6kytcpzamhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuurjd9kkzmpwdejhgtcqyqel69rpthln
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Goose_in_Gensokyo 2 weeks ago
typo! here is correct:
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Yay! after a lot of efforts, trials & errors, it's finally done! 🐈 🐈‍⬛ 🐈 🐈‍⬛ 🐈 🐈‍⬛ I tried to make it "metallic as your songs", (the more the closer to endings of animations), but maybe it's not enough... >.< next time, (if you permit me to do so), - I'll try to make videoclips: your music + fractals' animations, synced; (I can't promise anything because I'm lazy, but I wanna try!) @npub1syaz...gmnw cats is the cure
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BitcoinIsFuture 2 weeks ago
Yes yes, I understood. But I would suggest first to add couple more relays for better reachability and then monitor if multiple notes are missing. I also have many of my notes missing which made me suspicious but then the case with Fuckstr is a no doubt fact.
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