I mean any five people from this comment section can censor any person for me right now, and I have no say whatsoever. And the worst part is that the validity of the report doesn't even matter. They can literally report this and it will work the same. I mean user literally have no say in this particular feature wse. We can't even turn it off. I don't know maybe I am overreacting, but I just don't get it.

Raise the threshold. I happen to like @Vitor Pamplona so I'm not going to say make him taste his own medicine. That's not friendly. But you programmers can let people choose the threshold.

I think you are overreacting. And you can test it. Download Tony's version and see how many new accounts / messages you can see now without the filters. My prediction is that you won't see any difference. The reality is nowhere near the level of "censorship" you expected in the original post.

That being said, I appreciate the concern you raised. It helps keep my assumptions in check.

Think about it for a second. Any random 5 users from this comment section can decide to report "this note" for no reason at all, "complete baseless reports" and I will be censored for their entire follower base. Neither I nor his followers will have any say in it. No say wse! Here's a fun fact: Most of the censorship on Amethyst is unintentionally driven by Damus users who are "completely unaware" that they are censoring individuals for their entire follower base. They're shocked yesterday! Don't just take my word for it; scroll through this post feed using Amethyst, and you'll find multiple real people being censored simply for criticizing Bitcoin or promoting shitcoins. Really! This is even worse than Tumblr, this doesn't make any sense & we are overreacting, wow!

So, they are REPORTING people and not expecting anyone to take action from it? That doesn't sound like the correct expectation for reports. Maybe Damous needs are better explainer. Report is a report. Clients can be extremely harsh about it and not show ANYTHING that has been reported, far beoynd what amethyst does. Other clients can fully ignore it. Users can choose apps that are harsh if they prefer. Also, most relays use the reporting function to filter content these days, so reports do matter.

They don't have any stakes in it; I literally see them playing with report buttons for memes and find those events on relays. Some of them even use the report button to flag posts (like hard comment), not with the intention to censor that person for their entire follower base. You are assuming that without any context. Yeah there may be some cases but not all. You will find so many examples of abuse or misunderstanding around this feature in this comment section. I was just talking to a guy here few hours ago.

Reports are content flags. Clients can do whatever they want with them. I think it's better to address this on the reporting screen of the sender. Otherwise, you will be run into issues with every client.

Example: Here is tanel flagging one of my post, it was a memes. He is one of my closest friend here. Do you really believe he wants me to be censored by his entire follower base. You are just assuming it. For this feature to work we have to teach every single client user how to use report & when. Not even mentioning basis & intentional abuse.

Correct. We have to educate users. That's why that appears in the profile. You can reply to the report and the reporter will receive a notification.

I know this is complicated, but you have a proven track record. I hope you will also find the best solution for this. Good luck, man! 🍀

Thanks for the SATs! I do hope Tony's or somebody else's fork also bring some ideas to the table. I also hope somebody makes an app just to monitor reports, educate and call out reporting abusers. There is lots of work to do.

We will find a way 🤜🤛

What Iefan says is so true. Report seems like it applies to only a particular note that you feel others may not want to see/ avoid - not the entire feed of a user. Even on Amethyst, when I report a post, it's doesn't explicitly mention I'm reporting the user & not just the note.

Everyone knows this. I'm a Damus user too. Most reports on Damus are for 'Bad Content,' (post) and it's easily verifiable. But Vitor insists on using 'reports' as the main basis for censorship, not to mention how cheap they are. It will just suffocate Amethyst users. Just take a quick scroll, it's already happening, you'll see numerous examples right here. I was just talking to one . 🤞