You two played off each other so well in this episode! 🙌 The “gradually, then suddenly” concept really stuck with me—building something over time with the right people is the key. Your advice about starting a Bitcoin career was super motivating! Even if someone is not a dev, if you're passionate, just keep going, and if it doesn't work out, find a team doing it the way you like. “I’m not motivated by tasks, but by the people I work with. Does that team make you feel better? “ That really struck a chord with me today and really needed to hear that today, it’s keeping me going! 🙏