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kyle-moore 1 month ago
Comparing this to custodial lightning and cashu it doesn't seem so bad. I thought with bip300 we would not be relying on multisig?
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Big Bad John 1 month ago
It is all the same shit rearranged. Nothing can anchor to bitcoin without trust.
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kyle-moore 1 month ago
I would like to spend my bitcoin privately without trusting some bro running a mint
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kyle-moore 1 month ago
I think thats such a gross over simplification of the tradeoffs. Even if. I would rather trust miners then some random bro with a cashu mint or some LNSP. Everyday i'm flipping between monero or bitcoin. Bitcoin is the money because of network effect and shelling point. Monero has the network effect and shelling point in privacy coins. Id rather just use a private bitcoin that has a distributed trust model. Drivechains would pull the air out of the room on alts
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Big Bad John 1 month ago
If you trust miners you dont need drivechains. Just tell them not to replace your txn and include it someday when they can. And also accept that as settlement when people pay you. Zero-conf txns solve your needs.
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kyle-moore 1 month ago
Yes Tru but i still want privacy so zcash drive chain
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kyle-moore 1 month ago
This is hyperbole and really a bad faith comment. You are not even proposing any solution while the real world state of bitcoin l2s is much worse than trusting miners dont collude. We are all trusting custodians on here for lightning and cashu.
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Big Bad John 1 month ago
You could just ask the miner to run a mint for you and get a better UX.
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kyle-moore 1 month ago
Its not that reductive. It would be a very public theft if miners tried to rug a drivechain. And yes miners running the mint would be much better then a faceless anon from africa waiting for a pay day.
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kyle-moore 1 month ago
Again as opposed to what. Bitcoin just ossifies and dies because ppl only use it as "digital gold"
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Big Bad John 1 month ago
No. It is simple because any design that implies trust in miners must accept that also means trust in government, and trust that nothing would convince them to rug pull. This is a horrible assumption.