Social media is a place for opinions, it's also a place for those to challenge them. I don't really care about either, I just want people to make actually honest arguments. I often speak in anecdote because I think there is a real sentiment that can be argued. Imo, rarely does simply refuting a statement on "related fact" change ones opinions. Showing statistics and suggesting causation is just as egregious imo. That said I tend to agree, however empty, over-optimistic refutations bother me too. They often go for the ad hominem of "you're just black pilled". I'm just against the idea that you refuse to acknowledge that X thing is objectively worse than it _was_ which is _why_ we have the alternative in the first place. But the other part is, there is a reason the alternative has 80 stars on GitHub and is updated once a year. Because it's not good... I just get the impression that often those who suggest "the alternative is good" literally haven't used it. World view and framing I suppose. > My point is mostly, that I am against maximalist claims. I do disagree quiet strongly, with opinions, which use words as "everything", "nothing", "always", "never" and so on for practice reasons. I would suggest that maybe you were looking for something that wasn't there. Specifically in the washing machine and refrigerator statement. Again I say this as someone who worked on computers for diesel engine management, I think computers managing engines _can_ be good, but it shouldn't be so difficult. And given the option, I would rather go back in time. We can have the quiet interior, and mostly safe braking, crash resistance, and steering, completely mechanically... because we did! Have a look at and VAG car from the early 2000s. Yes they were mechanically complex, but many (if not most) mechanical failures are less catastrophic. Think suspension wear, steering wear, brakes etc. They are physically redundant, not my car won't turn on, could it be the telematics?, the radio (yes actually)? the GPS? the gauge cluster? the abs or brake control module? The interior module? Oh the front bumber sensor cluster? This isn't hyperbole either btw, everything I just listed is true depending on the failure mode.