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John ₿ Wick 2 months ago
@Seth For Privacy much love and respect and congratulations on the Radar release. Truly remarkable. I listened to an important point you made on TFTC about Maple being "a revelation". I'm not sure if you've done a deep dive but it looks like all they're doing is wrapping another service called and charging a huge margin on top. Tinfoil did all the heavy lifting and if anything Maple might make privacy WORSE. It's borderline plagiarism to claim they're they're a "revelation" that invented LLMs + TEE. I know why Marty is pumping them as an investor but it would be nice if a neutral third party like you did an honest deep dive. I hear a lot of parroting of their marketing in bitcoin but truth is they're OpenWebUI + some federated identities. Decent work. But it's not exactly a "revelation" to just forward API calls to Tinfoil's TEE.

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Marketing tends to move faster than due diligence, and Bitcoiners should be skeptical of every product, even the ones getting lots of praise. Proof beats hype every time.
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. 1 month ago
Anyone can access open weight Tinfoil models using @routstr Daemon right now with @Private Provider without any KYC, fiat or subscription.
i have a website which provides more info about providers and their reliability (i've removed mape because they require subscription to even list the models they support and their token pricing is not publicly available - only an old documentation links) most companies in this space just resell someone elses infrastructure for a premium and prices tend to vary widely. same with their actual correctness of confidential infrastructure implementation (reproducability , attestation etc)