that is true, but not what's being discussed here (although a few don't seem to be able to see that). all can be true simultaneously: cool tech, not decentralized, not a premine, bitcoin onchain for "human rights" = lol. in fact, if you ask me, they are indeed all true simultaneously. but they needn't have been. the focus here is that calling a dev tax a premine is incorrect, even if the end result turns out to be more or less the same (same in the sense insiders get a part of the supply, not the same in that the insider's supply comes at once (premine) or trickles slowly (dev tax).

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i dont know why you want to litigate the definition of "premine", its beside the point. whatever it was, the question is "does it make it unsafe for human rights usage?" assuming that's why gladstein is "so sick of z Cash people." so seems like gladstein and Matt want to argue that it does. which is why I'm telling you that is actually what's being discussed here. anyway, isnt Amber zookos wife?