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1. From user’s perspective, he is spending BTC from his self-custodial Lightning node connected to wavecard via Nostr Wallet Connect. Yes, Bitcoin is sold to fund the purchase, but ONLY because the receiver is not taking Bitcoin. It’s basically selling Bitcoin on behalf of the merchant. If 99%+ of society takes fiat today, how are you supposed to pay for groceries, pay rent, buy tickets? 2. Our users sell Bitcoin not because they want to, but because they don’t have anything else. If you have cash around, you’re essentially shorting Bitcoin. But if you’re all-in BTC, then you have to sell it to live. It doesn’t matter if you sell it to non-KYC gift cards, or you automate it via wavecard, you’re still selling. We’re not trying to deplete people’s stacks. Actually, they stack even their disposable fiat income into BTC, because they are confident that they can spend BTC instantly, and not worry about not being able to pay one way or another. 3. Let’s be realistic here. Our product is not for those Bitcoiners that already went underground. This won’t make them KYC, like it won’t make you KYC. We’re not competing with whatever setup you have to pay for your life. We’re competing with other debit cards that are all KYC’ed regardless, like Revolut. Except, at least we can offer a Bitcoin-only debit card that spends from self-custody and doesn’t require you to hold shitcoins (fiat included). If you’re using debit cards, ours is the best option today. 4. There are already plenty of very smart builders working on the solutions for the inevitable endgame of native Bitcoin payments. We don’t need to exclusively stack all the manpower on this now. The real question is when is this endgame gonna arrive? I think we simply have different assumptions of the fastest path to reach it. It’s not enough to just build native stuff and expect the humanity to choose a dramatically smaller payment network. There’s a huge chasm between the early adopters of Bitcoin and the rest of the humanity. You’re expecting the “stupid” people, as you call it, to suddenly do a 180 on their habits, go fully non-KYC, drop their usual payment methods and live your way. It hasn’t happened and it’s naive to expect that people will choose sacrifice over convenience. This disconnect is actually holding us back. Your way is to be very strict, demanding and educational. Being one person, you have converted tons of people, relatively, but these are early adopters on the long-tail of the distribution. Instead, we come to the majority’s KYC’ed yard, and try to offer the first stepping stone. Something that would at least tick some good boxes: being able to own only good money, put it in self-custody, without changing their habits. That will create a lot more zero-fiat Bitcoiners who will still demand merchants to allow them to pay in Bitcoin directly. Then, we will have a real chance to flip the fiat tables sooner. And lastly, our roadmap does eventually include a native non-KYC Bitcoin payment wallet, so all those debit card users will be able to easily graduate into native payments when there are merchants that take Bitcoin. You’ve been criticizing us since inception on Stacker News, and we do read your stuff. I tried my best to explain our case. Although I won’t change your opinion, I just hope that you can see where we’re coming from and the intentions we have.