you are a reasonable person John ❤️ but most of these maxis particularly the ones who had to deal will 2017 ICO shitcoin boom, have taken refuge in prejudice and dogma. i think it comes back to what is "winning"? and how does it look? i contest the general narrative USD denominated price appreciation alone is "winning" but that metric is convenient for those who aren't interested in the complexities and just want to shitpost and circle jerk.