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Dr Maxim Orlovsky
dr-orlovsky@BitcoinNostr.com
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Towards the stars, using aspera as weapons. Cypherpunk, AI, robotics, transhumanism. Creator of #RGB #BiFi #AluVM #Contractum. #Bitcoin dissectionalist
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dr.orlovsky 2 years ago
I was thinking of what nostr is. The initial concept I had was that nostr is a specific client-server (relayed) protocol for social network defined as NIP-1, plus extensions on top. Now tend to see nostr is some other way. Nostr is the way of producing public authentificated data feeds by pseudonymous web-of-trust identities. NIP-1, existing relays etc are just current implementation details, which may change. What would always remain are the data feeds linked to decentralized identities.
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dr.orlovsky 2 years ago
Thoughts on #nostr. Nostr is a websockets-based text protocol for logs of authenticated (but unauthorized) tagged (and otherwise unstructured) messages stored at public relay servers. The rest is a specific nostr application (like social networking or payments) on top of it. Nostr takes several decisions on possible tradeoffs, which I try to analyze here: 1. Websockets. Good: pub/sub data access, web-integratable. Bad: high load on relay servers limiting scalability. Verdict: ⚠️ 2. Elliptic curve (secp256k1) for identities. Good: bitcoin-based. Bad: very low performance, not GPG/SSH compatible, sidechannels. Overall: ❌. 3. Signature scheme: BIP-340 Schnorr. Good: batch verification, standard. Bad: optimized for onchain, discarding y coord, making verification ~50% more expensive than non-BIP Schnorr. Verdict: ⚠️ 4. Hashing function: SHA256. Good: standard, bitcoin. Bad: slower than BLACKE3. Verdict: ⚠️ 5. Text JSON encoding. Good: easy to implement. Bad: hard to pass & slow to encode/decode non-text/binary data; no limits on data sizing opening a door for DoSing relays and clients. Verdict: ❌ 6. No authorization scheme. Good: easy to implement. Bad: limits use cases, limits scalability. Verdict: ⚠️ 7. No encryption on the transport level, relying on TLS. Good: easy to implement. Bad: centralized, not end-to-end. Verdict: ⚠️ So I see most of selected tradeoffs by Nostr as a bad or poor decision. This us arguable of course. Can Nostr survive and success? For sure, if even much worse systems had done that in the past (Ethereum, JavaScript, PHP). What is the greatest Nostr weakness? Limited scalability and possible DoS (not even DDoS) attacks. If I were the one who did nostr, what I would had made differently? I would had used Ed25519 signatures on Ristretto25519 (speed), binary encoding with strict limits on data sizes, use Noise_XK encryption - and provide bridges to Websockets only when they are needed for the web. But we have what we have. image
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dr.orlovsky 2 years ago
Is it just for me the “Follow” feature in #Damus is broken? When I click “Follow” the button says “Unfollowing..”. In the second click “Following..”. And the home feed is always empty. It was the same for the last several versions. @jb55
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dr.orlovsky 2 years ago
I have read Nostr specs. JSON objects. Sigs over JSON objects. All data (images ext) mist be serialized into … strings! And Secp256k1 curve for signatures. This all means _slow_. That is exactly how it feels.