“To hell with the future,” “It’s a man-eating idol.” #IvanIllich
"A good tax lawyer found a way of making it credible to IRS that a certain number of cases
of ordinary but good and clean wine are my major teaching tool and can, therefore, be written off from taxes." #IvanIllich
"Present institutional purposes, which hallow industrial productivity at the expense of convivial effectiveness, are a major factor in the amorphousness and meaninglessness that plague contemporary society." #IvanIllich
@Maple did you guys adjust the token billing? Allocation is running down a lot quicker since a couple weeks back.
"People need new tools to work with rather than tools tools that "work" for them. They need technology to make the most of the energy and imagination each has, rather than more well-programmed energy slaves" #IvanIllich
“The Antichrist, or let’s say the mysterium iniquitatis, is the conglomerate of a series of perversions by which we try to give security, survival ability, independence from individual persons to the new possibilities that were opened through the gospel, by institutionalizing these.” #IvanIllich
@Maple Kimi has been retarded today. Have you guys lobotomized the service for some reason? Maintenance?
"Man would live in a plastic bubble that would protect his survival and make it increasingly worthless. Since man's tolerance would become the most serious limitation to growth, the alchemist's endeavor would be renewed in the attempt to produce a monstrous type of man fit to live among reason's dreams. A major function of engineering would become the psychogenetic tooling of man himself as a condition for further growth. People would be confined from birth to death in a world-wide schoolhouse, treated in a world-wide hospital, surrounded by television screens, and the man-made environment would be distinguishable in name only from a world-wide prison." #IvanIllich
I wrote a review of Ivan Illich's book "Tools for Conviviality" for Stacker News. This will be the subject of my next podcast, as it is highly related to how Christians should be thinking about AI, in my opinion.
Stacker News
Book Review: Ivan Illich Tools for Conviviality \ stacker news
As part of research for my podcast "Digital Agon" I decided to read Ivan Illich's Tools for Conviviality. I had read Illich's "Gender" previously a...
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“I would rather speak of the art of seeing the cosmos, bearing it, suffering it and enjoying it.”
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“At this moment, the world’s very existence assumes the nature of something gratuitous… This moment of our being together, which I immensely enjoy, is not predetermined by some karma, isn’t just chance, isn’t logically necessary, it’s a pure gift.” #IvanIllich
“Sweetest things
turn sourest by their deeds.
Lilies that fester smell far worse than weeds."
Shakespeare
"Corruptio optimi pessima"
The corruption of the best is the worst
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I have a theory that 3 ply thinking from chess can for the basis of a moral/ethic. That is, before we act, it is moral to ask ourselves what are the likely consequences of our action, and consider what we would then do in response to those consequences. Only when we are satisfied that the resulting status would be good or beneficial or at the least neutral and non harming should we proceed to act. If we are to miss a detail and this invalidates our evaluation, them this is a chance to learn, not a moral failing per se. But if we act in the world "hoping it'll be ok" and not considering likely consequences, or we may even notice consequences but not formulate an idea to respond, or we formulate an idea but don't bother to test it with an evaluation, and ask ourselves the hard question of "is that an acceptable outcome", then that is a moral failing. 5 ply or more thinking is genius, and is to be appreciated but not demanded or expected. But 1 ply thinking is a moral failing, and good moral instruction will seek to train and discipline students away from such naive reasoning. #chess
“people increasingly occupy a new dimensionless cybernetic space,
and this space is discontinuous with the past, unconnected to the certainties by which people formerly lived.” #IvanIllich
"I believe, that the future is in the hands of God...I cannot let anybody
insure either the material or the spiritual future for me." #IvanIllich
“Realizing that we can practice renunciation… is for many people who suffer from great fears and a sense of impotence and depersonalization, a very simple way back to a self which stands above the constraints of the world.” #IvanIllich
"I believe that that angel told that woman that she... was to be the mother of God... I therefore listen to Him as nobody before this event could have listened to another, looked at another." #IvanIllich
"The time of prophecy is behind us" #IvanIllich
The ruins of Time build mansions in Eternity. #WilliamBlake
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