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Robert Jacquart said: Before the Reformation, early Christians were either Catholic or Orthodox, no Protestants existed. So, who is the one really being deceived? Look at the fruit of Sola Scriptura, division and chaos. Show me where Protestant Reformers have the right to establish any other churches than the one established by Christ, the Bible doesn't give man any authority to establish new churches. All those #Protestant groups, thousands upon thousands as a result of #SolaScriptura . So which Protestant denomination is the correct one? --------------------------------------- DOW responded: Robert Jacquart, your assertion that Sola Scriptura leads to division ignores that God’s sovereign election ensures His true church—those predestined to salvation—remains united in truth under His Word, not human institutions like Rome. Let’s dive into “P” from T.U.L.I.P.—Perseverance of the Saints—which ties directly to your claim about Christian division. This doctrine teaches that those whom God has elected and justified will persevere in faith to the end, not because of their own strength or a visible church’s authority, but because God’s sovereign grace keeps them (Philippians 1:6, John 10:28-29). Your point about “thousands of Christian groups” assumes chaos undermines truth, but Perseverance of the #Saints reveals that God preserves His elect through His Word alone, not through a unified human hierarchy like Catholicism claims. Scripture, not a pope, is sufficient (2 Timothy 3:16-17), and division among professing #Christians reflects human sin, not a flaw in God’s plan or His Word. Robert Jacquart, I urge you to come to Jesus, trusting solely in His finished work on the cross for your salvation, not in the traditions or authority of any church—Catholic or otherwise—but in the grace of God revealed in Scripture. Here’s a puzzle for you, Robert: If apostolic succession doesn’t exist—as Scripture nowhere establishes a chain of ordained authority passing from Peter to bishops—how can Christianity or any denomination exist without it? Consider this: If the church’s legitimacy hinges on an unbroken line from the apostles, yet Acts 1:21-26 shows apostle replacements required eyewitnesses to Christ’s ministry (a qualification ending with the first century), and 1 Corinthians 12:28 lists apostles as a distinct, foundational gift—not an ongoing office—then the true church must rest on something else. Christianity stands on the foundation of Scripture as the apostles’ preserved teaching (Ephesians 2:20), not a succession of men. So, solve this: How does the Roman Denomination claim succession when the Bible prioritizes apostolic doctrine over apostolic lineage? Robert, your questions and points—like “who gave Reformers the right to establish churches?”—collapse because apostolic succession never existed in the #biblical sense you assume. Scripture shows no transfer of supreme authority from Peter to a bishopric; Peter’s role (Matthew 16:18-19) is tied to his confession and Gospel proclamation, not a perpetual office—Jesus is the head of the church (Colossians 1:18), and the apostles’ authority lives in their writings, not successors. The early #church had elders and deacons (1 Timothy 3, Titus 1), not a monarchical #papacy. Your appeal to pre-Reformation unity overlooks rampant early disputes (e.g., Gnostics, Arians) and assumes Catholic/#Orthodox claims match Scripture, when they’re later traditions. Christianity doesn’t “establish new churches” but reforms back to the biblical model—God’s elect guided by His Word. Robert, your reliance on #Catholic tradition and accusations of #Christian chaos smack of gaslighting and trickery—pushing a false narrative of papal necessity deceives others into doubting Scripture’s clarity. You prop up a man-made #denomination , cloaking it as Christ’s church, when the #Bible never crowns Rome as supreme. That’s the real deception—leading folks away from God’s Word to a fabricated authority.

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