@npub15879...kv0n have you ever tried to grow gooseberries in zone 8? I've been considering blueberries but I get the impression they're pretty water hungry and I don't have a good irrigation plan for where I want to put them. Plus, I have one report that they "haven't had success" with blueberries, even with irrigation, out here.
I've obviously got blackberries but I want something that can also function as a border on its own.
I'm specifically considering

Ribes curvatum - Wikipedia
but also more common gooseberry varieties.